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Comment Archives: Stories: News+Opinion: Haire of the Dog

Re: “Confederate flag on cover of CP angers out-of-state reader, threats issued

I really hope that the people at City Paper feel utterly foolish now, and that they cannot help but admit they were wrong in perpetuating the attitude that led to the deaths of nine innocent people.

Posted by mjmcdougle on June 19, 2015 at 9:42 PM

Re: “Emanuel AME shooting: This is now the world we live in

"I don't think you know what irony means."

Yeah. And I also don't know what hypocrisy means.

Enjoy your guns.

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Posted by ALBERT8184 on June 19, 2015 at 6:00 PM

Re: “Emanuel AME shooting: This is now the world we live in

"The irony of your rebuttal is amusing, leemajors."

I don't think you know what irony means.

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Posted by leemajors on June 19, 2015 at 5:45 PM

Re: “Emanuel AME shooting: This is now the world we live in

"Irony is dead. Enjoy dying alone in your bomb shelter amid non-perishables and guns."

The irony of your rebuttal is amusing, leemajors. I don't have a bomb shelter or a gun. I think there's a bag of rice in the kitchen cabinet. Hardly enough for one week. But you keep on being paranoid anyway.

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Posted by ALBERT8184 on June 19, 2015 at 5:36 PM

Re: “Emanuel AME shooting: This is now the world we live in

So I guess Mr Haire would feel better if Roof had killed them with a knife?

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Posted by luvindisgig on June 19, 2015 at 5:27 PM

Re: “Emanuel AME shooting: This is now the world we live in

"A lecture from the masters of paranoia"

Irony is dead.

Enjoy dying alone in your bomb shelter amid non-perishables and guns.

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Posted by leemajors on June 19, 2015 at 4:54 PM

Re: “Emanuel AME shooting: This is now the world we live in

We are heartbroken and filled with overwhelming sorrow that this horrific slaughter could take place in our Holy City, in a house of Worship. Our hearts go out to the Mothers, Fathers, Daughters, Sons and Spouses of the Victims of this Domestic Terrorist. Our society here in this Country is a sick one, one that needs help. The ease in which guns are purchased, sold and stolen here in this State and in this Country is sickening. The hatred and vitriol that exists against many races and cultures other than White America here is also sickening. My own children have experienced this first hand. We are off to Spain in a week for the remainder of the summer and I am going to take a long look at simply being based over there for a while. I leave you with a quote from Malcolm X, say what you will about the man, he was definitely right about many things. There has got to be a Change and don't look towards current Politicians to do it for you, rise up and be heard in numbers too great to be denied, this quote still applies today. "I read once, passingly, about a man named Shakespeare. I only read about him passingly, but I remember one thing he wrote, that kind of moved me. He put it in the mouth of Hamlet, I think it was, who said “to be or not to be”. He was in doubt about something. Whether it was nobler, in the mind of man, to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune— moderation—or to take up arms against the sea of troubles and, by opposing, end them. And I go for that; if you take up arms you’ll end it, but if you sit around and wait for the one who is in power to make up his mind that he should end it, you’ll be waiting a long time. And in my opinion, the young generation of whites, blacks, browns, whatever else there is, you’re living at a time of extremism, a time of revolution, a time when there’s got to be a change, people in power have misused it, and now there has to be a change. And a better world has to be built and the only way it’s going to be built is with extreme methods. And I, for one, will join in with anyone—don’t care what color you are—as long as you want to change this miserable condition that exists on this earth."

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Posted by CIACulinaryKid on June 19, 2015 at 4:48 PM

Re: “Emanuel AME shooting: This is now the world we live in

"Inanimate objects can do nothing on its own."

You can shove this nebulous argument right up your rancid urethra.

A gun exists purely to kill something else. It is, by definition, a deadly weapon. It is not a can opener. It is not a light switch. It is not a screwdriver. It is not a utensil. It is an instrument of death.

Throwing your hands up and saying WELL THE GUN DIDN'T SHOOT ITSELF is such an intentionally obtuse copout.

Other developed nations have successfully regulated or banned handguns successfully, and MIRACULOUSLY do not suffer from epidemic gun violence.

I won't pretend that a gun ban or comprehensive gun control will eradicate crime--it won't. But it makes deadly force much more difficult than stopping by your local sporting goods store.

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Posted by leemajors on June 19, 2015 at 4:13 PM

Re: “Emanuel AME shooting: This is now the world we live in

Typical self-serving Left Wing pablum. A lecture from the masters of paranoia and "Infliction" about how they would solve all of America's problems if we would only let them rule in place of the Constitution. These are the same people who were bombing ROTC buildings in the 70s and committing other acts of political terror. With guns. The author sounds more paranoid than anyone. It wouldn't be wise to give him your gun.

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Posted by ALBERT8184 on June 19, 2015 at 4:12 PM

Re: “Watch Jon Stewart's powerful monologue on the Mother Emanuel Shooting

Here's an interesting thought I read about the TakeItDown movement.

Nikki Haley's spokesman says the governor "does not have legal authority" to do anything about it. But that's actually not true. The law says the provision preventing the flag's removal "shall not apply to the maintenance and repair of the monument." All Haley has to do is send a member of the grounds crew up there and say something needs fixing. Then we'd see if any Republican legislators have the temerity to complain. It won't happen—Haley would never have the guts—but it should.

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Posted by ImFromHere on June 19, 2015 at 3:22 PM

Re: “Emanuel AME shooting: This is now the world we live in

Do I regret it? Yes. In light of this week's events, I now feel that it was used too flippantly as a design element.

I can't say we won't use the Confederate flag again in some fashion, but the circumstances would have to be either specifically about the flag or it would have to be about something historical in nature. And I would always reserve the option to use it satirically. I come from the school of thought that comedic ridicule is the best weapon.

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Posted by chrishaire on June 19, 2015 at 2:35 PM

Re: “Emanuel AME shooting: This is now the world we live in

Does Chris Haire now regret placing the confederate flag image on the cover of last week's City Paper? By using and defending the use of that image, Chris, you have spread hate. The "little that you can do" is STOP SPREADING AND DEFENDING HATE!

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Posted by Leslie Burns on June 19, 2015 at 2:24 PM

Re: “Emanuel AME shooting: This is now the world we live in

This is an overly simplistic viewpoint. Blaming "gun culture" for this? Really? Paris doesn't have a gun culture - ask the Charlie Hebdo victims about that. Or the tens of thousands of people being lined up and killed in cities all over the mideast every week.

If you hadn't noticed, violent crime and murder in this country have fallen nearly 50% over the past 20 years, the exact same time frame where gun ownership has risen to record levels. That alone breaks the correlation you so desperately want to exist.

How about focusing on the actual problem? Hate, evil, and/or mental illness for starters? Yes, those are much harder to address, that's the sickness, not just a symptom.

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Posted by Tom McHale on June 19, 2015 at 2:20 PM

Re: “Emanuel AME shooting: This is now the world we live in

Wrote this for the newspapers, thought I'd share.

When a murder occurs in any state it is a sad situation to say the least. When there are multiple murders then the news media will jump on the story digging up all types of crime making the community that it happened in look like a war zone, which leads me to the mass killing in Charleston.
First of all, I want to send my condolences out to the families of those killed by a deranged young man. Secondly, I would like to say that before anyone jumps the gun making assumptions, give the police a chance to get the evidence and facts together.
Further, no matter what the shooter thought to justify his actions, he is mentally deranged. You don’t kill someone and try rationalize it with excuses.
Lastly, it is a sad commentary to say the least after living here for over twenty years and having gone through Marine Corps boot camp at Paris Island to see that South Carolina will be another state where a heinous crime has been committed. Not to long ago Charleston was rated as being one of the places where the people were the most polite.

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Posted by Gregory Topliff on June 19, 2015 at 1:45 PM

Re: “Emanuel AME shooting: This is now the world we live in

The sad issue of this commentary is the focus on the weapon used by a hard-hearted young man that has been influenced in his life to hate a certain skin color. The same influence that you had to comment on the use of the gun. The same influence others have on Christians & other religions. It is the heart of the person who commits such tragedies. The sad part about this and other situations like this is NO ONE can see past the Media's influence, the Politicians influence, or the LACK of Morals in the world. The articles that should be written...to INFLUENCE your readers...should be on the UNITY that citizens of Charleston have shown. They have bonded together to overcome this heartache, praying and crying with each other, drawing strength to carry on.

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Posted by Brian Dawn McBride on June 19, 2015 at 1:41 PM

Re: “Emanuel AME shooting: This is now the world we live in

"Gun advocates will bend over backwards to blame everything and everyone but the gun." DUH!!!! did the car cause the wreck or the person behind the wheel? did the knife cut your hand by itself or the careless use of it by you? did the hammer hit your thumb or the careless use of it by you? Did the alcohol cause the intoxication or the person consuming too much? Inanimate objects can do nothing on its own. People have perfected blaming everything and everyone but the responsible party.

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Posted by truthrus on June 19, 2015 at 1:35 PM

Re: “Watch Jon Stewart's powerful monologue on the Mother Emanuel Shooting

Jon Stewart touches on a really good question: what causes racism at its root? Why does this sort of violence happen *internally* as well as abroad? And how should we fight it?

Tim Keller (a pastor in NYC) gave a landmark talk on this topic in 1995 after the Oklahoma City bombing - very timely for Charleston today. You can listen to it for free here:
http://www.redeemer.com/static/audio.php?mp3=http%3A%2F%2Fdownload.redeemer.com%2Fgrace_and_race%2FIs_Diversity_Possible.mp3

Definitely worth thinking through, because while everyone agrees that we should fight racism, we need an accurate diagnosis of its cause(s) before we can choose an effective antidote or cure.

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Posted by DMC_Engineer on June 19, 2015 at 12:46 PM

Re: “Emanuel AME shooting: This is now the world we live in

Gun advocates will bend over backwards to blame everything and everyone but the gun. They recite the gag-inducing and laughable scenario of an 'unarmed populace being the friend of the dictator.' (Hint: A dictator with an army is rolling us regardless of how many pea-shooters you carry in compensation for a laughable dick)

I like target and clay shooting. Guns have a place in hunting and sport.

But deregulating them and handing them to every man woman and child so that we are involved in a perpetual de facto mexican stand off is no solution at all--appealing only to children, and violence porn aficionados.

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Posted by leemajors on June 19, 2015 at 12:27 PM

Re: “Emanuel AME shooting: This is now the world we live in

"Certainly part of the problem, but for the real evil try late night am radio in the SC boonies."

Nope, I refuse to punish myself in this manner.

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Posted by brewengineer on June 19, 2015 at 12:12 PM

Re: “Emanuel AME shooting: This is now the world we live in

"Glenn Beck".
Certainly part of the problem, but for the real evil try late night am radio in the SC boonies.

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Posted by TROLLSLAYER on June 19, 2015 at 9:56 AM
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