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Comment Archives: Stories: News+Opinion: Haire of the Dog

Re: “An open letter to Academic Magnet students

Sarah,

I didn't write about what happens to black folks around the world. By and large, I wrote specifically about what happens to them right here in Charleston and the rest of South Carolina.

As for Mr. Fish,

I like that idea. In fact, that would please me to no end. Although when it is smashed, I hope it's not done before a largely African-American team, complete with so-called monkey noises.

When this is all said and done, I hope the administrators at AMHS take the time to realize the importance of teaching their students not about racial sensitivity but the horrors of slavery, the Jim Crow era, and the bloody fight for at least a semblance of equality. I hope that also teach their students that this fight is far from over. All they have to do is look at the black neighborhoods that surround AMHS and they'll see that the effects of 300 years of systematic oppression — including 100 years of it after the Civil War — have wrought on the black community. Sadly, if this matter has taught us anything, it's not that these students merely remain blind to these facts but so do their parents.

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Posted by chrishaire on October 22, 2014 at 7:10 PM

Re: “Melongate: Big toothy grins, watermelons, and monkey sounds don't mix

I like you, too, raverjames. Would you like to go to dinner? Is your limousine capable of taking faxes?

Oh, and: I apologize for being racist about white people. I'm sorry; I should always remember how tough it's always been for us.

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Posted by Pronghorn on October 22, 2014 at 7:06 PM

Re: “Melongate: Big toothy grins, watermelons, and monkey sounds don't mix

Wow, I can't imagine a "professional journalist" such as yourself not proof reading his essay or his reply to one of the comments below. There are quite a few grammatical mistakes in the essay and the comment is virtually unreadable. The comments written by the students are much more well written.

It seems to me that you have quite a bit of the green eyed monster because you certainly seem to resent the students who attend the "#1 school in the state" and "one of the best in the nations (sic)". One wonders what caused this animus.

I know nothing about The Charleston City paper and so I am not able to comment on any other reporting or editorials written therein. However, having read your essay in which you use such verbiage as racist-douchebag and grade A-dumbass at all and especially directed toward students, I cannot believe that it is a quality production. I don't imagine that your readership will increase due to your diatribe, except for this little bump of course. In fact, I wouldn't be at all surprised if your readers left in droves, as well as your advertisers.

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Posted by Anne Logan Choat on October 22, 2014 at 7:04 PM

Re: “Moffly: Majority of school board backs Walpole reinstatement, says players actions not racist

You keep saying the same things over and over again:
Use poor sarcasm to demonstrate how you think people insinuate that Magnet students are incapable of racism.
Accuse the whole school of being racist because of one isolated incident.
Use misinformed reasoning to show why this isolated incident is racist in the first place.
Bring up irrelevant examples of racism in the past and then call us all douchebags for not "remembering them."

And yes, racism, does still exist. But people like you are trivializing it in crying out racism over the dumbest things like watermelons. You, my friend, are the one who is an insult to everything for which Martin Luther King, Jr. stood and fought. You are the one who has forgotten the struggles African Americans have been through by perpetrating the idea that a petty little high school football ritual is any equivalent! I am disgusted at what this whole ordeal about watermelon smashing had to turn in to. It is insulting to the Academic Magnet community, and especially any person of a minority race who has faced and fought against real oppression.

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Posted by I've Lost Faith in Humanity on October 22, 2014 at 6:37 PM

Re: “An open letter to Academic Magnet students

Besides watermelon is full of necessary vitamins, a really great dessert and better for you than viagra. Eat plenty of watermelon folks it is really good and good for you.

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Posted by Cajie on October 22, 2014 at 6:33 PM

Re: “An open letter to Academic Magnet students

Ah, Mr. Haire is there anything good about the South? Chris Haire makes his living bashing and trashing our Southern Culture and Heritage. It's all about the bucks folks. What is it haire doesn't like about the Confederate Flag? The naacp has lied about it and told black people to despise it. WHY? I think the reason is that they hate White People and want what we have all to themselves. People need to re-educate themselves; I like this little book by Francis Springer (born in Mass.) "War for What?". I love Bob Dylan "Cross The Green Mountain" pay attention to the words and you will know why we believe in the 2nd Amendment so strongly. We are an agrarian people, and The states of the Confederacy are wide and deep, Mr. Haire is not one of us.

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Posted by Cajie on October 22, 2014 at 6:30 PM

Re: “Melongate: Big toothy grins, watermelons, and monkey sounds don't mix

"... and he's correct; look at how many of these sheltered suburban white kids have registered on this site to cry about this. Undoubtedly, they rallied through social media."

I like you pronghorn, but that was a very racist statement in itself.

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Posted by brewengineer on October 22, 2014 at 6:28 PM

Re: “Melongate: Big toothy grins, watermelons, and monkey sounds don't mix

chris, i am not from charleston, i'm from nyc, i do not like football, i don't care about it at all. howerver, i know enough about it to know how coaches help rile up kids and bond them as a team. how do i explain to you how misguided you are? somebody is most certainly ignorant here, but it's not the football coach or his team.

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Posted by Mf Cohen on October 22, 2014 at 6:25 PM

Re: “An open letter to Academic Magnet students

Jacob Crowley, since when do we honor traitors to the United States? Moreover, traitors who lost? I don't seem to recall having any celebrations dedicated to the brave British loyalists from the Revolutionary War. Flying the confederate flag is a celebration of treason, and often ignorance, and arguments to the contrary do little but demonstrate the latter.

Coby, "The white privilege just oozes out of these entitled critters.

It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad. They should be required to spend a few hours a week outside of their bubble." ? Really? Based on your picture, you're practically an albino. You seem to be doing some good work for people, but please don't criticize "white privilege" from a position of white privilege. It makes you sound pretentious and insincere. It also makes you seem like you've never actually experienced poverty or racism, or discrimination of any kind, which does not strengthen your cause one bit. The students are misguided, but they (mostly) don't seem to be writing from a position of hatred or malice or even indifference. They don't understand. The job of people who know better is to help them understand, not to rail against their privilege as if you've ever been outside of the bubble and experienced any of it first hand.

/Yeah, I'm white, too
//Grew up in poverty as a Russian Jewish immigrant, discrimination is still very real and very alive in this country

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Posted by Alexandre Mouravskiy on October 22, 2014 at 6:23 PM

Re: “Moffly: Majority of school board backs Walpole reinstatement, says players actions not racist

couple of questions: was "kowtowing" your choice of words or Moffly's?
and the Black kid on Magnet's team, was he participating in the Racist demonstration because he was intimidated by his team-mates, or perhaps since he is a Black kid at Magnet he's a closet White Supremacist?
And I love the irony that it was a Military Magnet parent that instigated this, because for the four years my son went to AMHS, Military beat the tar out of us every year and taunted heavily after each game.

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Posted by Ima Oldman on October 22, 2014 at 6:18 PM

Re: “Moffly: Majority of school board backs Walpole reinstatement, says players actions not racist

Dude, just stop. You picked the wrong side of the argument, quit trying to back it up. You've caused this to blow up enough. Your history skills are excellent but your logic is nonexistent if this is really the way you're looking at this. Enough is enough

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Posted by Brendon Frankel on October 22, 2014 at 6:17 PM

Re: “Moffly: Majority of school board backs Walpole reinstatement, says players actions not racist

Man, Chris Haire is peddling the white guilt in super-sized portions with this article. His unabashed race-baiting to try to garner a following from the neo-progressives that he depends on for the livelihood of his paper is as stale as Dot Scott's. Every controversial issue is always due to institutional racism, a specific racist act, or white ignorance. There is never a reasonable, common sense explanation in Haire's world. You should expand your pathetically narrow circle of prejudiced friends. The saddest part is, when the facts eventually come out in these cases, and they always seem to, these knee-jerk baiters never seem to find the moral fiber to apologize for their inexcusable actions. I suppose this one will be no different. I imagine you'll be calling on all grocery stores to stop selling watermelons soon, as blacks find it offensive to have to be exposed to them every time they shop.

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Posted by mtpwolverine on October 22, 2014 at 6:16 PM

Re: “An open letter to Academic Magnet students

These young people are so impressive. The future is in good hands. They truly desire to live in a post-racial society and their arguments seem pretty forceful. Don't foist your jaded and cynical view of the world upon them just yet. They still have the power to change the world.

I think you guys should name your watermelon Chris Haire. You could print out a picture of him and tape it to the melon before you smash it each week. Who knows, maybe 100 years from now every AMHS freshman will ask,"why do we smash watermelon named Chris Haire?"

And the answer will be "because he was some newspaper editor who talked shit about the students once a long time ago."

And then the freshmen will ask, "what's a newspaper?"


PS. Shouldn't Chris be a "grade F" dumbass?

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Posted by Fish Pimp on October 22, 2014 at 6:15 PM

Re: “Melongate: Big toothy grins, watermelons, and monkey sounds don't mix

The only thing worse than racism is injecting racism where none exists.

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Posted by Richard Julian on October 22, 2014 at 6:14 PM

Re: “Moffly: Majority of school board backs Walpole reinstatement, says players actions not racist

You seem to see a racist around every nook and cranny..when u really need to look in the mirror. Yeah..gosh liberals can be rascist... when you somehow equate Tim Scott with shuck and jive for the republican party..you sir have done exactly what you accuse others of doing.
A man, who has opposite views of your own, cannot have come to those opinions on his own but must somehow be a puppet who does the bidding of others.

It is you, who continues to promote the stereotypes.

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Posted by artrogue on October 22, 2014 at 5:33 PM

Re: “An open letter to Academic Magnet students

Time for the real apology letter...as facts have come out and Coach gets back to work.

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Posted by artrogue on October 22, 2014 at 5:21 PM

Re: “Melongate: Big toothy grins, watermelons, and monkey sounds don't mix

I find this to be classic race baiting -- now a respected and beloved coach is slandered and out of a job and something that was innocent has been blown totally out of proportion. Mr. Haire's ineloquent, offensive stereotyping of the Academic Magnet student body is uninformed and crass in it's delivery. The fact that these kids (both African American and White) on AMHS's football team were subjected to a Gestapo type questioning sessions without parental approval, knowledge, or representation while withholding them from attending classes is inexcusable and needs to be investigated. The Charleston County School Board's effort to be PC in this clear misinterpretation of events has opened it up to a whooper of a law suit and is indicative of a failure of leadership. Sounds like someone was a sore loser and was grasping for a way to get back at the AMHS football team for it's success on the field, even if it meant making up a crazy theory based on the treatment of a fruit.

The Charleston County School Board needs to quickly issue an apology to this coach and return him to his job -- before it costs the citizens of this community a lot more embarrassment and money.

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Posted by William J. Allen on October 22, 2014 at 5:12 PM

Re: “Melongate: Big toothy grins, watermelons, and monkey sounds don't mix

A black student on the team said that it was a smiley face, not a racial caricature. When someone does something with no racist intent, or knowledge that it would be perceived that way, just because you are hypersensitive and take it as a slant does not mean that they are racist or even have subconsciously done something racist. Instead of going after this coach and trying to shame these innocent kids, the better approach would have been to use it as a teachable moment and explain to these kids the history behind it and why it could be perceived as racist. From what I have read in the many comments here and elsewhere I have a good bit of confidence that the kids would have changed their celebration had they known people were offended.

Instead, the race baiters like Michael Brown and racism perpetuaters like the local NAACP have to do the opposite and try to divide the races, further breaking apart the community instead of bringing it together. Or maybe worry about the environment in the black community that makes someone walk into a children's restaurant and start shooting or goes up to a random person on the street and tries to sucker punch knock them out.

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Posted by JustJerry on October 22, 2014 at 5:01 PM

Re: “Melongate: Big toothy grins, watermelons, and monkey sounds don't mix

"They may not troll as hard, but they have the communication skills down."

Let's not get carried away here, raverjames. For one thing, the writing is not special enough to warrant a distinguishing comment; and for another, most people are taught to write on or above that level toward the end of their middle school matriculation.

Thank God for Mississippi.

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Posted by Pronghorn on October 22, 2014 at 4:26 PM

Re: “Melongate: Big toothy grins, watermelons, and monkey sounds don't mix

Ron Liberte:

"AMHS apparently has one hell of a Drama program."

... and he's correct; look at how many of these sheltered suburban white kids have registered on this site to cry about this. Undoubtedly, they rallied through social media.

While you're on here, kids, remember to keep telling yourself that you know diversity and economic inequality.

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Posted by Pronghorn on October 22, 2014 at 4:20 PM
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