Part of the problem in this state is that the Democrats, by and large, enable the Republicans. They run as well-I'm-not-really-progressive and then gladhandle in Columbia so their district doesn't get gerrymandered out from underneath them.
Anyway, the point against McConnell is two-fold.
1. Anybody that you have to play SEVERAL ROUNDS of the point/counterpoint game of "well he did do this odious, probably racist thing... buuuut he did do this thing that wasn't racist" is racist enough for me. How hard is it to find people who are obviously, inarguably, definitely, not racist? With all due respect to Mr. Ford, I also know bigots and racists and they pretty much act like McConnell. Just cause he's not a cartoon villain who is always invariably sinister does not mean he gets absolution for all the sinister things he does.
2. The big deal that (should) go beyond politics and ugly personal values, however, is the political patronage that appears to be so nakedly flaunted in everyone's faces here. SACS stipulates pretty explicitly that the board of trustees is essentially supposed to serve as a buffer between the legislature and the school, not serve as an instrument of it. Getting into trouble there is no joke; if anything hard comes out that shows that McConnell got this job as the political giveaway it appears to be, the College will find itself in a very difficult position.
YET ANOTHER shining example of the enemies of Southern Culture being forced, by facts they cannot refute, to fly INGLORIOUSLY from the field. Getting my paint out to add Happy Pessimist to my Flag!
I wonder if the enslaved portion of the population would have agreed that the confederate swastika stood for freedom.
Fair enough. The end.
@ Melvin Then you should LOVE the Flag and the CSA! They stood up to the bullies in Washington City!
@truthrus -- it's because I'm old and I have old expectations. I want to see someone stand up to the bullies in Columbia. I don't expect this from the Republicans. Mostly they ARE the bullies in Columbia. I do expect this from the Democrats, who used to believe in social justice. Maybe they still 'believe' it, I know some very sincere activists locally who still claim to be Dems. But it seems to me that our Democratic legislators would rather throw the CofC community under the bus than risk going out on a limb for what's right.
Ex. Sen Ford, a ethical kind of guy.
Actually, HP, ursus has a valid question. At what point has ursus displayed any intelligence that points to it being a human being, or indeed exhibiting any of the traits of anyone with a sense of humanity? Ursus is a bear. Referring to it as "you people" only serves to confuse and madden it. Please stop feeding it.
Oh crap, maybe an indirect object, since it follows the preposition. I can't remember the rules! Dang, my whole case regarding McConnell's hire is unravelling before my very eyes.
@ursus, are we now reduced to semantic arguments over sentence diagrams? Use context clues, a tiny bit of critical thinking, cut out the bias and the knee jerk indignation and you might arrive at the right answer. By "you people" I meant... you people. I'm not exactly sure what else you could take that to mean, it's not exactly my side of the argument that's pulling out the dog whistles.
Unless you want to make the argument that you're not a person and instead an internet Turing test designed to spit out illogical argumentative clauses that are so infuriatingly inaccurate or assumptive that people don't notice your lack of humanity. If that's the case I'll not contest the point and amend my subject clause to "you people and ursus, the irritating automoton."
EDIT: may not be a subject clause but rather a direct object. Please allow for partial credit, ursus, it's been a long time (for me anyway) since middle school.
@ Melvin. Why should they? Just because they are democrats? Perhaps they do not agree with the students and faculty.
I think what bothers me is that Stavrinakis, now Ford -- not one of these Democrats has come out to defend the students and faculty of CofC. Are these folks completely clueless? They have to realize that the issue is just as much about the process as it is about the person. The appointment of Glen McConnell is just another example of the closed-door, back room deal, good old boy bullshit that's been going on forever. It was shoved down the throats of the CofC community and was accomplished over their loud and vocal objections. It's part of the reason that the state government is viewed by many in Charleston as the enemy. I don't give a crap what Ford thinks. Find me a politician with the nerve to stand up to that system and that's someone I'll listen to.
Well yeah, if you're both you can't be neither.
@ pessimist What do you mean "you people"??????
SWEET JESUS as my Daddy used to say. We used to joke that James and Johns Islands were gonna sink under the weight of all the people suddenly(or what seemed like suddenly)living there. I grew up in Riverland Terrace. Riverland Drive to be exact. My Mother continues to live in our family home and often times I drive her to the Walgreens on the corner of Folly and Camp Roads. Sometimes we "do" the Goodwill(you'd be AMAZED at what u can find there)store across from said Walgreens. We drive the "back" way. Up Riverland Drive to Camp and so on. We're always incredulous at the line of vehicles backed up on Riverland Dr from the Maybank Hwy intersection all the way to Camp Rd ending at Folly Rd Intersection where theres cars as far as the eye can see waiting to turn off Folly to get on Camp to Riverland to Maybank to home in Riverland Terrace or Johns Island/Kiawah/Seabrook and whatever else is that way. Ravenel and Hollywood perhaps. The people living on that part of Riverland Dr CAN'T EVEN GET OUT OF THEIR DRIVEWAYS! Or into their driveways for that matter. Same thing at Christmas and new years with thousands of folks going to enjoy the lights at James Island Co Park. I grew up on the section of Riverland unaffected by the traffic and I'm REALLY happy my Mother isn't subjected to the intrusion of the people and their vehicles invading Riverland Dr day in and day out. Those cars are practically sitting in folk's yards over there!! Thats WAY too intimate. As a Charleston native, I'm sick about the whole freaking debacle. Republican or Democrat. Lefty or Right wing. State or Feds. Doesn't matter. Something has to be done about the absolute stupidity of the traffic situation there. I don't want to see anyones home value go in the toilet or the wetlands affected negatively or people's lives changed by bird singing noise replaced by traffic noise or their view f-ed up because of a giant new bridge. I can't decide if I'm for or against the completion of the connector to be honest. The way I see it I'm damned if I do, damned if I don't.
@ursus, as usual, the answer is actually considerably more complicated. You'd need a Harvard sized endowment (in other words, it's not simply just an alumni donation issue) to be able to purchase the land and the buildings that make up CofC. It would be an impossibility for virtually any college in the country to go private, with the same situation.
But whatever, guy's a well-known Republican good ole boy so he's perfect for the job since that's the only qualification that seems to matter to you people. I'm so sick of everything getting boiled down to a party-line horse race. This guy is so under-qualified and dangerous to the institution that even his supporters are conceding potential enrollment declines, saying "so what" to the national embarrassment of it, and resort to "you lost so quit whining" invalidation tactics regarding - not an election, even - but the hiring of a regular citizen. And nobody stops to think of how unconstructive and harmful to society that is.
POWER TO THE PARTY. See you at the fascist rollout in 20 years, y'all.
It all boils down to the fact that the people who are against him will be against him no matter what is said or what he accomplishes. He could hand out gold bars to graduates and they would still whine and complain. He was selected to be president and has accepted the position. If you don't like it that much stop attending the CofC or if you are an alum don't donate any money and tear up your degree.
McConnell wasn't my first choice but I think he will do a good job.
One thing no one has publicized is that 19 of the 20 members of the
BOT are graduates of CofC. These people are doctors, lawyers,
businessmen/women and educators. They are not political hacks
that some are portraying them to be!!! CofC Grad and happy to be!!
@ pessimist The answer is QUITE simple. GO PRIVATE! Of course that would REQUIRE more than 7% of Alumni donating money back to the school like the CoC has now. I wonder if those who lately have been claiming just HOW MUCH THEY LOVE CoC and cannot stomach President McConnell are in that 7%?
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