The Worse thing that can be said about Murdoch's Empire
is to tell the TRUTH about them.
Will - Thanks for including Murdoch's name in the header for this article.
I wrote an eBook about Murdoch
it sells for 99 cents on Amazon, and Barnes and Noble.
He owns or controls 322 Media Outlets.
He is the Voice of the GOP, and is the ONE blocking the World Recession Recovery.
And have started an online Book
that I update regularly.
FREE UPDATE https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yY6cX8…
The place to go to see ALL Murdoch owns, and what he has been up to. I am up to Chapter 4 now.
Peter Orszag, former head of the Obama Office of Management and Budget writes this piece in support of mandatory voting.
Who was even debating this and why now?
So its okay to object strenuously to people showing ID at the polls when they show up voluntarily, but forcing people to vote is okay?
RACISM = RETHUGLICAN PARTY ... Most people do not want to be racists. Most people would vote against racists. So stopping some people from voting makes racist voting blocks WITH WHITE PHOTO ID a plurality. Over 100 thousand South Carolina voters do not drive, never had decent jobs to afford a car. And they do not have birth certificates born at home to moms without jobs or health insurance for hospital childbirth. In short: perpetuating low wage no wage racism by denying the people who are proof of Rethuglican Party racism effects, deny those who have the most to gain by voting OUT THE LIKES of Nimrata Haley & Bobby Harrell, deny them the vote by requiring them to obtain what they never had a drivers license. And punish the elderly & vision impaired who also do not have photo ID... lucky we have an Attourney General who stops racists from enforcing such laws
Let us not forget that the current mess with 250 candidates thrown off the ballot stems from the legislature's pious attempt to respond to Operation Lost Trust with an ethics bill that (in part) required candidates (but not incumbents) to file Statements of Economic Interest when they filed for office. This ethics law was so distant from the legislative consciousness that when they passed a new law requiring that SEIs be filed electronically, they forgot to repeal that earlier mandate.
So an elected official, representing you and me in Columbia, says the General Assembly doesn't mean that much to him and his give-a-damn meter is busted? REALLY? Do NOT run for re-election then you turd. Don't worry, there WILL be another to fill your worthless shoes and maybe they might give a damn. SHAME on the General Assembly, for not at the VERY LEAST, censuring him for those statements. Apparently there are MANY turds up there that need to be flushed.
Haley, Merrill ... hypocrites, jerks. If this is the best SC can do ...
I'm glad I don't claim this backwater of a state.
We need another Operation Lost Trust and start at the top with the most corrupt one of all - Nikki Haley.
The problem is that some citizens, legally allowed to vote, don't have driver's licenses. It is those people, people who don't drive, that this law would require to find their way to their county voter registration office during the hours of 8:30-5:00 on a Monday thru Friday where there is NO public transportation.
From my home, the drive is 45 minutes each way in my car. There is NO public transportation to the county voter registration office.
It is the difficulty of getting to the place to get the photo ID that is the problem in the SC law. Couldn't the photo ID go to the people who don't have it. Yes, it could and the State Elections Commission, realizing the problem, plans to arrange for ONE BUS -- ONE BUS FOR THE ENTIRE STATE of SC -- to go to areas where citizens don't have driver's licenses to provide the photo IDs.
If you think the SC law is really about identifying fraudulent voters, think again. If the intent was to provide photo ID for legitimate voters, ACCESS to photo ID equipment would have been provided in the bill.
The SC Photo ID is not intended to be an ID.
Did any of you defending this law actually read the law? Once you get a photo ID -- say at age 18 -- you use the same photo FOREVER. As much as you'd like to look like you did at 18 when you reach 40 and gained 50 lbs., you will not. Same for when you reach 80!
If this law was really about identifying voters, you would need a new photo every 5 to 10 years, but you don't. The photo ID is permanent. Obvious conclusion: If you want a photo ID that can actually be used to identify someone, this law will not do it.
If the photo ID is not an ID, why did the Legislature pass the law? Could it have anything to do with keeping people from voting?
I agree that Ben is an awesome individual and this was a great story to highlight one of the many ways people can make a positive impact in the community. And while the pizzas are super delicious, I am sadly unable to eat them any more until they offer a gluten-free crust (hint hint).
Benny D is a great man. I worked with him a long time ago, and was always jealous of his cool, level-headed attitude toward everything. Glad to see he's putting it to great use. Plus, his pizzas rival any other in town.
I can't help but notice that no one is really arguing about the serious problems in vote counting in this state. Now, of course we have Will to blame for that... when you bait the argument with marinated steak then the dogs will fight over the bait and not the trap. Voter ID is juicy and extremely partisan, so we like to argue about it. Not to say that points haven't been made, but the argument is about Voter ID.
Yeah, it makes sense that you'd have to show ID until you learn what all the requirements are for getting an ID if you don't have one are... specifically for poor blacks born in rural, segregated backwaters in the Jim Crow era. That's why there's a valid civil rights argument against it; our heritage (not hate, right?) towards those black folks and keeping them out of the voter rolls. Young people, on the other hand? Get with the program... life requires ID.
With the election machine problem: it seems that the political supermajority has no interest in either (A) disturbing the status quo that has put them in power or (B) exposing the human reasons behind the inaccurate computer results... which kinda points back to (A) as well. Democrats or GOP, it is the GOB Network that is usually at the root of the problem in the South. This is just another notch on their bedpost of poor governance.
If I had a dollar for every time someone posted here that I should have a column, I'd have three bucks right now....
/thanks for the kind words
//sometimes I'm a foul mouth, though
ps: you could start a petitiononline.com petition (heh)
Will some PLEASE give mat catastrophe (if that's his real name) his own column. He writes better than Chris Haire and actually reads history and philosophy. (Sorry Chris, I'm sure you are a hard working, kinda nice guy. But you are an editor for cripes sake.)Chris writes foul-mouthed little squibs that are not really worth reading most of the time because he is too busy putting out a newspaper.
We don't really have a valid, secure national identification system. We don't really have a complete, valid list of American citizens. We have 50 uncoordinated systems created to regulate automobile use that do IDs as a sideline. They can't be matched reliably to birth certificates in many cases. Name changes due to marriage, divorce or legal decree often don't get properly recorded. We have a passport system which is fairly secure, but that only covers about one third of the adult population. Any time someone proposes a secure national identification and registration system, which every country in Europe has, people here go nuts. In Europe, you get your secure ID, you register when you change your residence and that's it. People aren't running around with IDs from different states and different drivers, citizenship and birth records.
Years ago, a DMV employee in Cottageville was banging out state IDs for money on the nights and weekends, hundreds, perhaps thousands of them. He finally got busted when a trooper driving by wondered why the DMV parking lot was full on Sunday night. Those IDs were as real as yours, same material, equipment and everything else. Hopefully they're all expired now, but who is to say someone didn't build an entire identity with one?
We have an identification system which doesn't work and voting machines nobody checks. If someone cared about valid elections and citizenship, it wouldn't be this way. They just want to be sure they get reelected.
Why do you think the GOPers don't want the machines to work properly? Is it a question of not wanting to spend money, or do they not work in Dem precincts?
Will, thank you for this writing but it's time to make a few corrections: Sue EDWARD has no "s" .... Sue Edward represents many groups including www.charlestonpeace.net www.scwcf.bbnow.org and www.lowcountryhumanists.org and since then www.electSueEdward.com 843-763-7304 I'll be voting for her VOTE GREEN JULY 17 www.hireLarryFireBobby.com 843-926-1750 oust theocrat Speaker Harrell @VoteLarryDis114
I wasn't banging my head for you.
And the polls are wonderful, but they are also meaningless unless the questions are phrased properly and people know what they are supporting. Remember, support for "welfare" drops until the word welfare is replaced with "medicare" or "unemployment assistance" or "food assistance for children".
If you asked the average American if they supported a system of Voter ID that disenfranchised their 90 year old grandmother, they'd probably say "no".
And you'd support a National ID card? Well, I guess that would make checking into the FEMA death camps a hell of a lot easier.
Thanks for the well thought out response. I really do appreciate your input.
I suppose my posts will just keep causing you to bang your head against a wall because i just can't see the light. :)
Public opinion polls have shown strong support for voter ID laws amongst voters in the United States. A 2011 Rasmussen poll found that 75% of likely voters “believe voters should be required to show photo identification, such as a driver’s license, before being allowed to vote.
A 2012 Fox News poll showed 70% of voters supported requiring an ID to vote, and 26% were opposed. Voter ID laws were supported by 52% of Democrats, 72% of independents and 87% of Republicans
The statuses as of March 2012 of the 50 states regarding the required showing of ID at the polling place are as follows:
Strict photo ID (voter must show photo ID at polling place): Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Mississippi, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Wisconsin. In addition, South Carolina and Texas have strict photo ID laws that must receive, but have not received, approval from the federal Justice Department; pending such approval, they require non-photo ID.
Photo ID or alternative (voters at polling place must either show photo ID or meet another state-specific requirement, such as answering personal questions correctly or being vouched for by another voter who has voter ID): Alabama, Florida, Hawaii, Idaho, Louisiana, Michigan and South Dakota.
Non-photo ID (state-specific list of acceptable forms of polling place ID, including a non-photo form): Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Kentucky, Missouri, Montana, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, Utah, Virginia, Washington.
The most amazing is the last :
No ID required at polling place: all other (19) states.
Its is currently left up to each state, but personally i'm not opposed to opening the debate for a constitutional amendment and or a national photo id.
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