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Comment Archives: Stories: News+Opinion: Will Moredock

Re: “Reining in the Beach Company

Charleston is a low city. there should not be any tall buildings below the crosstown and then only on the Morrison drive corridor. the Beach Co. does not have a clue on how to act properly. Oddly though, I liked their first proposal more than the current one. Take the first proposal, scale it down and add more parking. That side of town actually needs a grocery store. People freaked out when they heard 24hr grocery store. it would probably be a good thing.

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Posted by Rutledge Rivers Webb Jr. on October 7, 2015 at 3:20 PM

Re: “Reining in the Beach Company

....the Beach Company and the horse they rode in on. The old bully, wheedle and whine just is not working lately so they will have the infamous Dewey, Cheatem and Howe law firm step in to get their way. Remember the Boulevard and the old "They will ride Bikes" who needs so much parking (we can build more units)? Remember the "Verbal Agreement" for the park in Longborough (The Beach company said we can donate the Park to the city. Put it in writing? Whatever for, y'all can trust us - just bend over a little further please Charleston). Thats enough out of Beach for a while. The money that they will spend in litigation is mind boggling. Throwing a huge hissy fit just because they did not get their way.

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Posted by CIACulinaryKid on October 7, 2015 at 1:44 PM

Re: “Reining in the Beach Company

Great article; absolutely spot-on.

B) The writing reflects a level of careful thought that Dwayne Green, ESQ., could never achieve.

Thank you for weighing-in on this issue, Sir.

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Posted by Pronghorn on October 7, 2015 at 10:40 AM

Re: “The Southernization of the American Economy

Krogers in this country is largely unionized and their prices are generally competitive in whatever area they are located. I know a couple of local (Raleigh NC) of their employees and they seem generally content with their employment and likely to stay on till retirement. Good place to shop. I can't remember seeing any Krogers stores in Charleston, though there is one down in Hilton Head. Solidarity forever!

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Posted by pugnax on August 19, 2015 at 12:52 PM

Re: “The Southernization of the American Economy

"I am doing well, so there is no problem" - a thing people say when they struggle with logical fallacies.

Who decides what proportion of gross revenue is allocated to profits? What is considered an acceptable profit margin? Why are corporation in developed nations able to pay more and afford more benefits to their workers? Why do they pay their dead-weight executives less?

The problem is that, in order to meet the unrealistic expectations foisted upon them by shareholders, corporations seek to cut labor costs (compensation, benefit, hours, etc.)--thereby fucking the very people that generate their revenues to begin with.

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Posted by leemajors on August 18, 2015 at 3:13 PM

Re: “The Southernization of the American Economy

"Someone fell for the 'Unions are MAKING me jack my consumer prices through the roof because treating my employees like human beings is TOO expensive' line."
No, I fell for a simple combination of 4th grade math and business 101-If a company's expenses increase significantly, and a huge increase in pay for unskilled and probably uneducated labor certainly qualifies; then to not lose profit they must raise prices.

And, BTW, I have worked for a large corporation and been paid well.
Because I was worth it.

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Posted by TROLLSLAYER on August 18, 2015 at 12:54 PM

Re: “The Southernization of the American Economy

The plant I happen to work at offers decent pay,good health care,sick pay, vacations, holidays and good retirement for the tasks I'm asked to do with safety being the most important part of the job.I have yet to see any volunteers with the exception of blood drives and toys for tots at christmas.And thanks for asking but my familys just fine. I dont see doing my job as a sacrifice, and yes, I would like to see the company make money,that keeps my paychecks coming.Thats how I share in their success.What exactly is your point?

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Posted by MCB on August 18, 2015 at 12:42 PM

Re: “The Southernization of the American Economy

"(The answer to all of these problems is progressive taxation, socialism and regulation. But you assholes would rather die in a gunfight after a healthcare bankruptcy and an extended unemployment with no safety net than see taxes raised a single fucking penny.)"

The Charleston City Paper comments section closed today, following what was described as "possibly the best thing ever said there, or anywhere else on the internet."

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Posted by mat catastrophe on August 18, 2015 at 11:48 AM

Re: “The Southernization of the American Economy

This place is a wonder. Often, conservatives here will argue that nothing can be done to fix problems that have been solved in developed nations for years.

Labor protections. Healthcare. Gun violence. Student Loan crisis.

NOPE. Nothing can be done--even though we are the only purported 'developed nation' literally being crushed under the weight of these cancerous/capitalist tumors.

(The answer to all of these problems is progressive taxation, socialism and regulation. But you assholes would rather die in a gunfight after a healthcare bankruptcy and an extended unemployment with no safety net than see taxes raised a single fucking penny.)

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Posted by leemajors on August 18, 2015 at 11:25 AM

Re: “The Southernization of the American Economy

"Very simplistic view of global economics."
Then you write the most facile, biased, shallow observation of unions.

It's your contention, then, that health care, wages, collective bargaining, vacations, etc... are not as valuable as having the flexibility to do more than one task at your job w/out being paid for it? That is both stupid and insane.
So you volunteer your time at your factory to do many tasks at your master's behest, in the hopes that you can volunteer your time at another factory later to do many other tasks? That's the American Dream to you?
Your own personal life takes a back seat to your masters' profit margins, and nothing else in the world, not your family even, matters more than the success of your company, EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T SHARE IN THAT SUCCESS?

You want your company to be successful, and you'll sacrifice for that, yet you want nothing in return? And, to even consider to ASK for something in return is "simplistic."
Wish more for yourself, dummy. Aim higher. FFS.

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Posted by landsnark on August 18, 2015 at 11:10 AM

Re: “The Southernization of the American Economy

Very simplistic view of global economics.You disparage the entire South as a ''english speaking third world country'' full of ignorant unskilled farm hands to which I take great exception to.Maybe we are smart enough not to make the same mistakes other parts of the country made in losing all those jobs.And a flexible workforce has very little to do with pay rate. It is the opposite of the standard union way of rigid workplace rules that limit an employee to one particular task regardless of need and any variation gets a grievance filed.Non-union plants have much more multi-skill,multi -area team concept which gives management the flexibility to adapt and improve quickly and efficiently and promote or replace employees by merit instead of seniority.That is the way its moving now and until the rest of the country figures this out,we will continue building plants and creating good paying jobs

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Posted by MCB on August 18, 2015 at 10:59 AM

Re: “The Southernization of the American Economy

"Then let's unionize the grocery stores and price them out of the food market too."

Someone fell for the 'Unions are MAKING me jack my consumer prices through the roof because treating my employees like human beings is TOO expensive' line.

If corporations would be reasonable about profit margins and accept that their previous margins were artificially high because they fucked their employees out of basic wages and rights, then maybe the end price would be more reasonable as well.

But no, we have 'sharedholders' to please. *vigorous jacking off motion*

Unions are a scapegoat for corporations to do everything possible to make money hand over fist at the expense of the employees.

I'll never understand why so many basic workers will argue in favor of multinational conglomerates when their best interests are at stake.

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Posted by leemajors on August 18, 2015 at 10:48 AM

Re: “The Southernization of the American Economy

"Do poor people have a right to consume products they cannot afford?"
Then let's unionize the grocery stores and price them out of the food market too.

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Posted by TROLLSLAYER on August 18, 2015 at 8:24 AM

Re: “The Southernization of the American Economy

"Take a good look at ticket prices if you want to see where union overpayment leads to."

That's merely greed, and people not willing to give up profit margins.

End for-profit sports.

End it now.

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Posted by mat catastrophe on August 18, 2015 at 12:32 AM

Re: “The Southernization of the American Economy

Do poor people have a right to consume products they cannot afford? Why is this an argument? What obligation does any business have to serve the poor? The games are free on TV, anyways.

For the life of me, I cannot understand anyone who is willing to buy a personal seat license that gives them right to buy tickets at a later date, but if people are willing to pay it, good for ownership and good for players.

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Posted by Fish Pimp on August 17, 2015 at 10:54 PM

Re: “The Southernization of the American Economy

Maybe not many empty seats, but not many poor people either. They have been priced out of the game.
Run business like a charity? Surely you jest.

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Posted by TROLLSLAYER on August 17, 2015 at 10:27 PM

Re: “The Southernization of the American Economy

I'm not seeing many empty seats at those prices. Was your point that this business should be run like a charity?

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Posted by Fish Pimp on August 17, 2015 at 7:23 PM

Re: “The Southernization of the American Economy

"Look at the unions for the professional sports leagues for an example of modern unions"
Take a good look at ticket prices if you want to see where union overpayment leads to.

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Posted by TROLLSLAYER on August 17, 2015 at 9:08 AM

Re: “The Southernization of the American Economy

There is no denying that the old unions were overcome by organized crime, which hurt business, workers, and taxpayers alike. But that doesn't invalidate the need for collective bargaining.

Look at the unions for the professional sports leagues for an example of modern unions. Players have won free agency, huge increases in salary, and more benefits. Owners have seen their franchises skyrocket in value. It's hardly led to the horrifying picture most conservatives like to paint about unions. Collective bargaining is win/win when done honestly.

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Posted by Fish Pimp on August 14, 2015 at 9:57 PM

Re: “The Southernization of the American Economy

Right, because UAW all unions are bad and workers SHOULD be oppressed.
Great point Cid. Here, I'll try what you're doing...
Our children should work themselves to death on Sundays in factories for no pay, and if you're against it, you don't understand the inherent value of hard work and don't treasure your employers enough.
Let's paint broadly with vapid platitudes thinner than a coat of that paint.

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Posted by landsnark on August 14, 2015 at 8:32 PM
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