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Comment Archives: Stories: News+Opinion: Will Moredock

Re: “The Southernization of the American Economy

HELP ! I'm being repressed !

hahah sure thing Sam.
btw does that go for everyone posting..memes?, links? you tube? cartoons? photos?
Or it is just for those of us that don't share the city paper's opinions?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS_1bzaj2f…
HELP ! I'm being repressed ! :)

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Posted by artrogue on August 13, 2015 at 10:31 AM

Re: “The Southernization of the American Economy

artrogue, please no copying and pasting from other sources. We're generous with what we allow to be posted in comments, but please don't copy and paste others' original work.

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Posted by Sam Spence on August 13, 2015 at 10:11 AM

Re: “The Southernization of the American Economy

You better check your so called usage of the word "theft". ha !

It is only theft, if the Creator or the Author opposes or rejects your usage. Please contact the author or creators of anything you think i "stole" and see if they would like me to cease and desist. I'll wait on the letter.

I'm a creator so i obviously know the law i sure don't need your opinion.

The message is important. I hope you read and learn something.

Your free to reject, oppose or ignore otherwise ... pfftttt

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Posted by artrogue on August 13, 2015 at 9:41 AM

Re: “The Southernization of the American Economy

Here is your first reading recommendation.

http://www.amazon.com/Race-Economics-Discr…

"Walter E. Williams applies an economic analysis to the problems black Americans have faced in the past and still face in the present to show that that free-market resource allocation, as opposed to political allocation, is in the best interests of minorities. He debunks many common labor market myths and reveals how excessive government regulation and the minimum-wage law have imposed incalculable harm on the most disadvantaged members of our society."

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Posted by artrogue on August 13, 2015 at 9:27 AM

Re: “The Southernization of the American Economy

Posting other people's work with zero attribution is theft, artrogue.

Why don't you have any respect whatsoever for intellectual property or copyright law? It's hard to take your conservative tripe seriously since, apparently, you don't take it seriously yourself.

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Posted by mat catastrophe on August 13, 2015 at 9:24 AM

Re: “The Southernization of the American Economy

Mr Moredock, no doubt, feels good about himself when he writes this drivel.

I suggest he read some more on the actual history of unions and minorities in this country before you think this is just some continuation of southern racisim.
In the United States, back in what liberals think of as the bad old days before there was a federal minimum wage law, the annual unemployment rate during Calvin Coolidge's last four years as president ranged from a high of 4.2 percent to a low of 1.8 percent.
Low-income minorities are often hardest hit by the unemployment that follows in the wake of minimum wage laws. The last year when the black unemployment rate was lower than the white unemployment rate was 1930, the last year before there was a federal minimum wage law.
The following year, the Davis-Bacon Act of 1931 was passed, requiring minimum wages in the construction industry. This was in response to complaints that construction companies with non-union black construction workers were able to underbid construction companies with unionized white workers (whose unions would not admit blacks).
The annual unemployment rate for black teenagers has never been less than 20 percent in the past 50 years, and has ranged as high as over 50 percent.

Incidentally, the black-white gap in unemployment rates for 16-year-olds and 17-year-olds was virtually non-existent back in 1948.
But the black teenage unemployment rate has been more than double that for white teenagers for every year since 1971.

This is just one of many policies that allow liberals to go around feeling good about themselves, while leaving havoc in their wake.

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Posted by artrogue on August 13, 2015 at 9:23 AM

Re: “The Southernization of the American Economy

The biggest myth about labor unions is that unions are for workers.

Unions are for unions
Corporations are for corporations
Politicians are for politicians.

The most fundamental fact about labor unions is that they do not create any wealth.
They are one of a growing number of institutions which specialize in siphoning off wealth created by others, whether they are businesses or the taxpayers.
There are limits to how long unions can siphon off money from businesses without facing serious economic repercussions...
The foremost example being:
The legendary John L. Lewis , head of the United Mine Workers from 1920 to 1960, secured rising wages and job benefits for the coal miners, far beyond what they could have gotten out of a free market based on supply and demand.
John L. Lewis' strikes that interrupted the supply of coal, as well as the resulting wage increases that raised its price, caused many individuals and businesses to switch from using coal to using oil...leading to reduced employment of coal miners.
The higher wage rates also led coal companies to replace many miners with machines.
The net result was a huge decline in employment in the coal-mining industry, leaving many mining areas virtually ghost towns by the 1960s.

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Posted by artrogue on August 13, 2015 at 9:01 AM

Re: “The Southernization of the American Economy

Of course, there is nothing new in any of this. "The South's aversion to both minimum-wage standards and unions is rooted deep within the DNA of white Southern elites," Meyerson writes.
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Moredock, for your next piece, you'll need to describe how it's possible to articulate this without being attacked or having your nationality questioned. Usually I start getting shot at upon the very mention of Unions. But my aunt always told me that going door to door espousing my political views would catch up with me one day. She was right. But I digress.

Describing why being anti-union while turning a blind eye to the exploitations of big oil, big pharma, big telecom, etc. is ironic usually becomes impossible about the time the word "union" is mentioned. Middle class South Carolinians probably cut off their nose to spite their face more than any demographic I can think of.

What if we renamed unions to something like "family values" or "that's capitalism" and then proceeded on about our merry way of advocating for workers' rights in this state? Would most of the folks who lash out at the mention of a level playing field even notice? Would they even care if they weren't trying to shout louder than the mouthbreather standing next to them, who has allowed the Republican party to convince him that he's worth only about 70% of his true market value?

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Posted by warwit on August 12, 2015 at 9:16 PM

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"Wages in counties where a Walmart has been operating for eight years, economist David Neumark has found, are 2.5 percent to 4.8 percent lower than those in comparable counties with no Walmart outlets."
And how much lower are prices and the cost of living in general?

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Posted by TROLLSLAYER on August 12, 2015 at 5:30 PM

Re: “The Southernization of the American Economy

Because in a free market, the poor and ignorant advocate in the interest of their ~*~*~future fortunes~*~*~.

The manager of your local McDonalds probably has strong views on the Estate Tax.

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Posted by leemajors on August 12, 2015 at 10:22 AM

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The great irony of course being that a lot of the people who suffer the most from these practices are also the most vocal supporters of the idea of the Free Market.

I don't understand why anti-union people can't apply their off-balance reasoning to corporations. "Some unions are thuggish and counter-productive - that means we should ban all of them forever!" But in the meantime let's not question the shady behavior of any corporation or advocate for proper regulations so they don't completely destroy our economy, standards of living, health and environment.

Just like in the past the lower class whites were mad at the newly freed slaves instead of the system, today we see lower and middle class people from coast to coast lashing out at people on welfare or unemployment benefits.

The misdirection of their anger has allowed our supposed representative republic to devolve into an oligarchy of elite private interests that's greed is non-partisan. Middle and lower class conservatives are getting just as fucked as everyone else, but instead of questioning why this is happening and advocating for change they would rather just bury their heads further in the sand and blame gay marriage and immigrants and Obamacare.

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Posted by Ron Liberte on August 12, 2015 at 9:48 AM

Re: “South Carolina continues to neglect the I-95 corridor

How about we stop blaming each other and just help the children!!!!

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Posted by Marino Garbin on August 12, 2015 at 12:33 AM
Posted by TROLLSLAYER on July 27, 2015 at 1:25 PM

Re: “It will take more than goodwill to heal this state

Continued from Ninablackhill

We shall not overcome anything. As Martin Luther said. We shall not be judged by the color of our skin but the content of our heart. Really.. Please.
The black haters have the black panthers saying kill all white family and kill all the white babies. Hate comes in all colors.
Not just by ones carrying a flag.
And as long as white people says nothing at all because they don't want to seem racist.
Tell me why black people all making things always about race. When there is the following. Jett magazine- (all about blacks) Ebony magazine- (all about blacks)
Black history month+,(,all about. Blacks)
Miss Black America-,( all about Blacks)
And the black awards- (honering only black actors and actresses). Yet they cru out about race and if the white people were to have Anything that was all white all hell would break out. The NAACP would start a race war and everyone would be marching in the streets to protest..if you want to move forward and stop making everything about Race then it has got to start somewhere. As long as there is things just for one race it will NEVER happened. NEVER. You can't have it both ways.
And you my friend who wrote this new article is what I called a white iddot. You may have a job and you think you are on top because you have a news title. You are also a hater. You claim people who carrying the confederate flag as uneducated rednecks. Who are you to sit injudgement of others. Saying if you support or carry the flag you are a low life. You are a hater. And no one should judge anyone but God. I say the world.is in w mess.and you sure didn't help matters with this article.

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Posted by ninablackhill on July 21, 2015 at 11:55 AM

Re: “It will take more than goodwill to heal this state

This article is bull. So removing a.flag is going to make the world a better place aBuymeveryone is going to sit around the camp fire and sing songs. Wow amazing Grace how sweet the sound. Wrong.
The same fool would killed the people in the church was also holding the american flag while it burned. Hate is hate it has no race, no education level,no money level.Hate is hate. A.flag doesn't make people haters only a person heart can do that. Sure they can carry a flag or paint symbols on their body to portray their hatered. But their hate is on the inside.
What happened in the past will Never be changed. It happened.
Years ago I watched a documentary it was filmed in Africa in a African tribe. The king of the tribe was the one talking about Africa he spoke about Slaves. He said that the Slaves in the US and other countries were slaves in Africa first. When a man was put into slavery his entire family was also consider slaves. The country had to many slaves and they were sold to the highest bidder. And sold to many people thorough out the world. He told of his life as a king of his tribe and he showed people the tribe how they live. Amazing how he was carried everywhere because his feet weren't allowed to touch the ground. Now people here will argue this is Bull. That all white people are cruel and bad people. I am white and my grand parents came from Germany,England and my great Grandmother was Cherokee Indian. With all the history of what was done to Indians. Yes it was horrible.
You don't see the American Indians starting race wars and they don't have their version of the NAACP. I am so tired of hearing about race. Yes we are different and we all have a past. We can only change the future not the past. Aa long as there are haters in the world blaming everything on race and not their heart.

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Posted by ninablackhill on July 21, 2015 at 11:27 AM

Re: “It will take more than goodwill to heal this state

"The true impact of a higher minimum wage isn’t just a raise for minimum-wage earners. It’s essentially an across-the-board wage hike for just about everyone who gets paid by the hour."

And a dramatic pay cut to those who are at the bottom who will no longer be employed. I will be looking forward to dining in your Charleston restaurant that pays everyone $15 per hour and has prices comparable to all of the other ones. It should last about a week.

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Posted by nofaith on July 20, 2015 at 9:51 AM

Re: “It will take more than goodwill to heal this state

pure economic bullshit.

Facts are not liberals’ strong suit. Rhetoric is.

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Posted by artrogue on July 18, 2015 at 10:11 AM

Re: “It will take more than goodwill to heal this state

"What would happen if we increased the minimum wage to $10.10, as president Obama proposes? The managers would most likely request a similar percentage hike in order to keep the same wage gap they once enjoyed. So, the restaurant would have to increase the salary of the managers, even though they already earn above the minimum wage.

The true impact of a higher minimum wage isn’t just a raise for minimum-wage earners. It’s essentially an across-the-board wage hike for just about everyone who gets paid by the hour."


Troll, this part of the Mike Meyer story is true. It's called "upward pressure". At the same time, we should be drastically increasing the number of top marginal tax rates. The point of the high marginal rates is not to raise money, it's to produce what's called "downward pressure" on wages. Rather than pay a 90% tax rate on the CEO bonuses, that money will be spent retaining the various VPs and secretaries within the company who are important to the company's success, but who pay much lower taxes. The result of the pressure from the top and the pressure from the bottom will be a thriving middle-class and an exploding economy where everybody gains.

I like to use the NBA salary cap as an example. We all know that Lebron is underpaid based on talent. But because teams must spend a floor and because individual salaries are capped, someone like our own Khris Middleton of the Milwaukee Bucks just scored a $70 million dollar contract. Way to go Khris! At the same time, the LA Clippers sold for $2 billion. Everybody in the NBA wins. Ownership, management and labor. And instead of competing to see who can be the greediest person with the biggest paycheck, Lebron competes for rings and glory in the record books.

It's really the way to tackle inequality and it's one of the reasons that the NBA is better than MLB these days.

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Posted by Fish Pimp on July 17, 2015 at 6:46 PM

Re: “It will take more than goodwill to heal this state

Deep Breath.....
I have to admit, I read the city paper's Views articles more as entertainment than anything else, just to see what these "experts" have to say. I suppose I should preface my comment by saying that I am neither a Democrat or Republican, left or right, and that thankfully I am of my own mind and can make my own opinion.
But after reading the articles on here (actually in the paper itself) from Mordock and Haire, I just can't not say anything.
Nothing brings out the pious, sanctimonious and know it all's more than a tragedy. Not being from the south,and also being 50 yrs old I always considered the rebel flag a bit of a joke, a red neck's emblem if you will and never could understand why it was ever flying again after the South's surrender, but after reading Moredock's article "After the Flag" i sat bemused that this fella actually believes what he was writing. The condescending gibberish he wrote was pathetic to say the least. Saying that those who follow or "believe" in the Confederate flag are just all dumb, uneducated hicks is pure insanity. That also, those who are GOP'ers are the only ones who supported the flag, utter nonsense if i ever heard it. Then Haire rambles on about just how important it was to the world to bring down that flag as if, honestly, it would actually make a difference to anything ! "Predictably, the losing side" isn't taking this well" he spouts as if there was a winner or loser in such an idiotic plight. However, the "winners" aren't good winners, either, as witnessed by the pompous diatribe he calls an article. It is cool to and trendy trash "whitey" , especially when a white on black incident occurs, but nothing and I do mean nothing disturbed me more than the wholly contrived and hysterical rant by Jenny Horne in the halls of government !
Oh what politicians won't do and say when the world is watching ! Where oh where has such "passion" been before this horrible tragedy ? Where has the ranting,foot stomping and tears been from her and her cronies prior to all this on subjects like the pathetic way they control domestic violence, the poor , the pathetic state of education in the state, the decrepit state of our roads and infrastructure etc etc etc
Let's face it, when the world is watching, politicians will act accordingly, but, when for the other 99.99% time, nobody is watching, they act like themselves and nothing gets done,so we get people such as Moredock and Haire come crawling out to tell us all just what bad people we really are and that they have known better all along.
Pathetic!!

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Posted by theresmoretotheworld? on July 17, 2015 at 3:27 PM

Re: “It will take more than goodwill to heal this state

Unemployment rates as of May 2015 according to BLS:

San Francisco = 4.1

Seattle = 4.4

Charleston = 5.7

The stupid is out of control, but keep believing the truthiness of your anecdotes.

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Posted by Fish Pimp on July 17, 2015 at 10:10 AM
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