Respectfully Sir, You need to get yourself a little education on the legacies of black violence and their connections to slavery before you, as a white man, writes something like this based on the narrow perspective of public memorials left to commemorate the white planter class in rural South Carolina. I recommend Angela Davis and Michelle Alexander's writings to you if you are genuinely interested in understanding this history and the true legacies of violence they have unleashed on (not within) black communities today.
I'm sure Moredock thinks of himself as a progressive thinker, but the sad truth is that he's mired in the past. His last paragraph is his mantra.
Weren't you just babbling about "We the People" in another thread? Which is it? Do you believe Hobbes was wrong and that the state of nature would not be a war of "all against all" or are you a communitarian willing to give over part of the control of your life to the social contract?
It is always somebody else's fault, according to progressive dogma.
After all, if you are responsible for yourself, then you wouldn't need government to look after you.
Well, since it's either white racists's neglect and oppression or the well-meaning yet ultimately destructive help of the white liberal, then yes. White people's fault.
Ah, so it's the white people's fault. Gotcha.
Ah, so gang wars and thug culture of LA, Detroit, and Philadelphia are all by-products of Edgefield SC Violence from 150 years ago. Another terribly tainted and agenda-driven conclusion from One Note Willy (Seriously, aren't there editors for this column). Here's a novel idea, what if Black Culture itself is to blame for its own violence, illegitimacy, drug use, and academic underachieving? Maybe just maybe it's time for Cultural reform so we can get those people on the path of success... like our asian/indian immigrants do so well. Race hustlers like Willy are the ones that are keeping them mired down by instilling that they'll never have a chance because SC was a slave state 150 years ago. It's time to look forward.
This line is an example of something called 'a fact':
"After all, these new businesses are creating jobs and expanding the tax base."
This line is something called 'a pretentious and silly jaunt into nonsense':
"But anyone who understands the politics and the culture of this state must be suspicious that at least part of their motivation is the warm feeling they get from giving money to rich people."
SC invests something so that these companies will invest even more. Look at what we "gave" BMW and compare that to their payroll in SC since 1994...get it?
And the gay angle...tenuous at best, condescending at worst.
Have we missed the a significant point here in the article? Would we not be smart at building our jobs and economy IF we made our state more liveable by building our infrastructure, improving our schools, developing our cultural amenities, and producing an atmosphere that creative people would want to live in?
Passing a ban on alcohol will keep the majority of problem people off the beach to begin with. Allowing alcohol and then arresting offenders will do little to change the climate on Folly Beach. When my wife and I go to the beach we either go to IOP or drive to Kiawah. We can anticipate appropriate behavior and clean beaches, neither of which are on display at Folly. The biggest problem I see with the ban is that the immature crowd will then disperse to the beaches that don't currently have an issue. For the rest of us, it might be a blessing if Folly decides to continue to allow alcohol. At least the idiots could be contained in one location.
I think that we have too many laws. If you are drunk and disorderly there is a law against that. Arrest them. Public urination will get you on the sex offenders list, unless you pee with the fish. I disagree with a ban. I think arrest the bad guys. The good guys will see that bad behavior is punished and act right. Don't add more laws, enough...
I don't drink, I used too. And would only go to Folly because it was so relaxing to have beer on the beach.
Both of those areas are much larger, with much greater populations, and much closer to Charleston. The restaurants and shops on FB will struggle with less visitors in the summer...they rely on the income during that time to try to make it through the rest of the year. Not the case with the other places...
Why do you need people to come to Folly?
James Island or Mt. P do nothing special to attract
people and both are doing just fine.
I live on Folly, and while I'm not a fan of the immediacy of the ban, action needed to be taken. However, if this ban becomes permanent, then Folly Beach has to take other steps to continue to bring people into town.
The town council and some long time residents want to encourage more families to visit. Tell me, what is there for kids to do here? There is nowhere for them to congregate, and when they do, they get harassed (witness it often). There is no movie screens, other than Wednesday's at Tides. No arcades. No events directed at them outside of surfing. No mini golf. Nothing for them to do outside of walk around with their parents and mill around on the beach.
Also, if I live in Summerville and I want to go to the beach for the day, and I have to choose between a community that takes the time to sweep the beach and keep it clean and one that doesn't, I'm probably headed to the cleaner one, since I cannot enjoy my beverage of choice at either. And why sit in crazy traffic on a small two lane road, just to get a parking ticket because 1/4" of my front tire might be touching the pavement?
Yes, the situation was getting precarious. However, going from one extreme to the other never seems to be the best solution. And who does it hurt? Not the drunks, but rather the businesses like our Folly favorite Bert's Market who rely on the business.
Folly Beach, we can do better than this, and still keep our unique offering. Let's think logically about it. And for those who are tired of it and say Folly has gone to hell, they'll probably get tired of where they move to sooner or later and say the same thing there.
The bit about public urination would seem to be a separate issue.
There is nowhere to "go" on Folly, even non- drinkers have to sometimes engage in "public urination".
Especially us old guys with swollen prostates.
sounds like an OWS protest to me
The law was overdue, it's has been too crazy for too long. Alcohol has fueled the majority of problems. It hasn't been safe day or night from drunk drivers, vandals, drug dealers, thieves and worse. I don't live there but have visited often enough to sense the change. Friends with kids don't go anymore in broad daylight because they don't feel safe. The ban will not destroy Folly anymore than similar laws on every other local beach.
Folly Beach's funky spirit comes from within not from spirits you drink.
Birds of a feather?
There is nothing new under the sun.
As a right-leaning, quasi-conservative, I have read your tirades and diatribes for years. I enjoy being provoked, and you do a good job demonstrating your disdain for the state I love. Occasionally, however, you write something I can agree with.
As a gay man, I was excited to see that maybe once again we could agree on something. I thought you would say something important about the struggles gays face in South Carolina or Charleston. Especially with the title of the article. You hi-jacked the idea and pontificated about the corporations you hate instead of focusing on pride - which you barely mentioned almost at the very end of your article.
Shame on you, Will Moredock.
Well, we all certainly know that Nikki Haley will attract the best school teachers to the area - what a joke she is.
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