This line is an example of something called 'a fact':
"After all, these new businesses are creating jobs and expanding the tax base."
This line is something called 'a pretentious and silly jaunt into nonsense':
"But anyone who understands the politics and the culture of this state must be suspicious that at least part of their motivation is the warm feeling they get from giving money to rich people."
SC invests something so that these companies will invest even more. Look at what we "gave" BMW and compare that to their payroll in SC since 1994...get it?
And the gay angle...tenuous at best, condescending at worst.
Have we missed the a significant point here in the article? Would we not be smart at building our jobs and economy IF we made our state more liveable by building our infrastructure, improving our schools, developing our cultural amenities, and producing an atmosphere that creative people would want to live in?
Passing a ban on alcohol will keep the majority of problem people off the beach to begin with. Allowing alcohol and then arresting offenders will do little to change the climate on Folly Beach. When my wife and I go to the beach we either go to IOP or drive to Kiawah. We can anticipate appropriate behavior and clean beaches, neither of which are on display at Folly. The biggest problem I see with the ban is that the immature crowd will then disperse to the beaches that don't currently have an issue. For the rest of us, it might be a blessing if Folly decides to continue to allow alcohol. At least the idiots could be contained in one location.
I think that we have too many laws. If you are drunk and disorderly there is a law against that. Arrest them. Public urination will get you on the sex offenders list, unless you pee with the fish. I disagree with a ban. I think arrest the bad guys. The good guys will see that bad behavior is punished and act right. Don't add more laws, enough...
I don't drink, I used too. And would only go to Folly because it was so relaxing to have beer on the beach.
Both of those areas are much larger, with much greater populations, and much closer to Charleston. The restaurants and shops on FB will struggle with less visitors in the summer...they rely on the income during that time to try to make it through the rest of the year. Not the case with the other places...
Why do you need people to come to Folly?
James Island or Mt. P do nothing special to attract
people and both are doing just fine.
I live on Folly, and while I'm not a fan of the immediacy of the ban, action needed to be taken. However, if this ban becomes permanent, then Folly Beach has to take other steps to continue to bring people into town.
The town council and some long time residents want to encourage more families to visit. Tell me, what is there for kids to do here? There is nowhere for them to congregate, and when they do, they get harassed (witness it often). There is no movie screens, other than Wednesday's at Tides. No arcades. No events directed at them outside of surfing. No mini golf. Nothing for them to do outside of walk around with their parents and mill around on the beach.
Also, if I live in Summerville and I want to go to the beach for the day, and I have to choose between a community that takes the time to sweep the beach and keep it clean and one that doesn't, I'm probably headed to the cleaner one, since I cannot enjoy my beverage of choice at either. And why sit in crazy traffic on a small two lane road, just to get a parking ticket because 1/4" of my front tire might be touching the pavement?
Yes, the situation was getting precarious. However, going from one extreme to the other never seems to be the best solution. And who does it hurt? Not the drunks, but rather the businesses like our Folly favorite Bert's Market who rely on the business.
Folly Beach, we can do better than this, and still keep our unique offering. Let's think logically about it. And for those who are tired of it and say Folly has gone to hell, they'll probably get tired of where they move to sooner or later and say the same thing there.
The bit about public urination would seem to be a separate issue.
There is nowhere to "go" on Folly, even non- drinkers have to sometimes engage in "public urination".
Especially us old guys with swollen prostates.
sounds like an OWS protest to me
The law was overdue, it's has been too crazy for too long. Alcohol has fueled the majority of problems. It hasn't been safe day or night from drunk drivers, vandals, drug dealers, thieves and worse. I don't live there but have visited often enough to sense the change. Friends with kids don't go anymore in broad daylight because they don't feel safe. The ban will not destroy Folly anymore than similar laws on every other local beach.
Folly Beach's funky spirit comes from within not from spirits you drink.
Birds of a feather?
There is nothing new under the sun.
As a right-leaning, quasi-conservative, I have read your tirades and diatribes for years. I enjoy being provoked, and you do a good job demonstrating your disdain for the state I love. Occasionally, however, you write something I can agree with.
As a gay man, I was excited to see that maybe once again we could agree on something. I thought you would say something important about the struggles gays face in South Carolina or Charleston. Especially with the title of the article. You hi-jacked the idea and pontificated about the corporations you hate instead of focusing on pride - which you barely mentioned almost at the very end of your article.
Shame on you, Will Moredock.
Well, we all certainly know that Nikki Haley will attract the best school teachers to the area - what a joke she is.
Huh? Maybe early onset Alzheimer's here or just sleep apnea? Might be wise to get a good checkup. Researchers have recently discovered that by scanning columns and blogs with a new software, people who have borderline dementia can be spotted and hopefully treated before it is too late.
In fact I just scanned what I have written with it and............OHMYGOSH!!! I've got it too!!!
Are you saying gays are not paying their fair share to help build the state's infrastructure and improve education?
Or are you saying a strong gay commumity is a magnet for high tech?
Or did you mention gay to assure the CCP would publish your colume this week?
Corporate tax rates (what a corporation pays to the state), not personal income, property or auto taxes, is what the article refers to, so this is no slam to poor people. You only made it that way....some people are not happy unless they are mad at someone about nothing.
In my state you have to pay $23 for your drivers license, and all the proof as mentioned. What about homeless people? They don't deserve a vote, because they don't have a home? What if you can't afford the I'd or license fee? Then you don't deserve to vote? The point if this is if you disinfranchise the voters (make it harder) then they simply won't vote! They know us better than we know ourselves! There always doin some kinda testing on black people!
I'm glad to see you're not the One Note Willy we usually get, ranting about how poorly black people have it... though if you were even remotely intellectually consistent you'd have point out that the black community is the MOST intolerant towards gay people. Escaped your wheelhouse, I suppose. They love it when white guilt liberal jerks like yourself compare gay rights with civil rights. Well, I guess we can't all be special. Bet on this, you'll count more black people at a Tea Party rally then this Pride Parade.
Instead you use this as a rant against low taxes? My neighbors from OH, MI, and PA, and NY all cite low taxes and warm weather as their choices to live here. So figure that one out.
Thanks for the liberal fascism. Let us know when the trains are on time.
Murdock's apparent notion that there's such a thing as "objective" or "unbiased" sources of news is silly. News is produced by people. People have biases. There's nothing fundamentally different about Fox News' bias. They're just more upfront about it than, say, the New York Times (I'm not referring to the Times supposed radical leftist bias, but their willingness to function as faithful stenographers for the US government. Just pay attention to how many of their stories-particularly ones about foreign policy-are based on nothing more than the say so of anonymous "government officials").
The most insidious form of bias is the process of story selection, precisely because it's less obvious than Fox's blatant distortions. There's an infinite number of "facts" or stories in the world, and a limited about of print space. For example, if I were writing a newspaper, ever day the headline would read "26,000 children under 5 die of malnutrition and preventable disease". Or "continued inaction on climate change endangers us all, scientists say". It might get boring reading essentially the same stories again and again, but those are the ones I feel are most important in the world, which is a reflection of my own bias. I wouldn't be outright lying about anything, but I would be privileging some facts above others.
As an example, one day last week one of the two (2) stories the Times had about Latin America were about a) the former dictators of Argentina being sentenced to prison, and b) some European tourists are having trouble rock-climbing in a town in Cuba because of bureaucratic silliness. Why did someone feel that the latter was one of the two most important stories to come out of Latin America in the last 24 hours? Well, their own biases, obviously. While the facts may be accurate, I probably never would have published the story, because i just don't consider it to be that important or consequential.
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