The current voter ID laws are not a common sense approach.
I mean, for a bunch of violent, radical, American freedom hating assholes, these people seem to have a good idea: http://www.yourmiddleeast.com/media/news/i…
As I said, the SC law (which is the one we're talking about here, thanks for trying to derail the thread) was written by a man who testified UNDER OATH in Federal court that he had not actually found any proof that any fraud existed in SC of the kind his law aimed to prevent.
In other words, it is almost as if SC had decided to pass a law about stealing cows in order to line them up in from of department stores as a barricade. I'm sure it's happened somewhere, but not here and not very often.
Not to mention that it's already illegal.
I made no claim that voter fraud is only on the democratic party. Voter fraud does exist. People have been prosecuted for it and are serving prison time. In an earlier post, I also cited several West Virginia cases. Search my posts if your at all interested.
No this is not SC. The Justice dept is also fighting photo voter id in several states besides our own, this is far from just an issue in our state.
Makes one wonder why so many people are against what seems to be a common sense approach. Realizing that very many states have no requirements at all makes ..the final statement even more important.
"The integrity of the ballot box is just as important to the credibility of elections as access to it."
Where in that orgasmic dream of Democratic no-goodery does it make the claim that Democrats are responsible for voter fraud? Felons had been convicted of voting when they had forgotten or never knew they couldn't. AND, there's NO EVIDENCE THEY VOTED FOR FRANKEN. The above article is quoted thoroughly throughout the Internet as "proof" of something, yet, there are no citations, links, evidence, quotes, or proof of any wrongdoing. Where are the names, interviews, smoking guns?
Democrats are playing it down because it's hooey. Republicans aren't prosecuting or publicizing because there is nothing to prosecute.
In fact, it appears that the felonious votes invalidated the Republican's initial victory. The evidence suggests the felons voted Republican and their votes were invalidated upon examination.
Minnesota Majority is a non-profit Minnesota lobby backed by Republicans to make voting more difficult for those who do not have local drivers licenses - students, elderly, impoverished.
Was that in South Carolina?
No voter Fraud. Untrue !
In the '08 campaign, Republican Sen. Norm Coleman was running for re-election against Democrat Al Franken.
2.9 million people voted
Coleman led Franken by 725 votes.
Franken and his Democratic allies dispatched an army of lawyers to challenge the results. After the first canvass, Coleman's lead was down to 206 votes. That was followed by months of wrangling and litigation. In the end, Franken was declared the winner by 312 votes. He was sworn into office in July 2009, eight months after the election.
During the controversy, Comparing criminal records with voting rolls, 1,099 felons were identified -- all ineligible to vote -- who had voted in the Franken-Coleman race.
Minnesota law requires authorities to investigate such leads. And so far, Fund and von Spakovsky report, 177 people have been convicted -- not just accused, but convicted -- of voting fraudulently in the Senate race.
Another 66 are awaiting trial. "The numbers aren't greater," the authors say, "because the standard for convicting someone of voter fraud in Minnesota is that they must have been both ineligible, and 'knowingly' voted unlawfully." The accused can get off by claiming not to have known they did anything wrong.
Still, that's a total of 243 people either convicted of voter fraud or awaiting trial in an election that was decided by 312 votes. With 1,099 examples identified by Minnesota Majority, and with evidence suggesting that felons, when they do vote, strongly favor Democrats, it doesn't require a leap to suggest there might one day be proof that Al Franken was elected on the strength of voter fraud.
The election was particularly important because Franken's victory gave Senate Democrats a 60th vote in favor of President Obama's national health care proposal -- the deciding vote to overcome a Republican filibuster. If Coleman had kept his seat, there would have been no 60th vote, and no Obamacare.
Voter fraud matters when contests are close. When an election is decided by a huge margin, no one can plausibly claim fraud made the difference. But the Minnesota race was excruciatingly close. And then, in the Obamacare debate, Democrats could not afford to lose even a single vote. So if there were any case that demonstrates that voter fraud both exists and has real consequences, it is Minnesota 2008.
Yet Democrats across the country continue to downplay the importance of the issue. Last year, Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, chairman of the Democratic National Committee, denounced "the gauzy accusation that voter fraud is somehow a problem, when over and over again it has been proven that you're more likely to get hit by lightning than you are to [be] a victim of voter fraud."
Wasserman Shultz and her fellow Democrats are doing everything they can to stop reasonable anti-fraud measures, like removing ineligible voters from the rolls and voter ID. Through it all, they maintain they are simply defending our most fundamental right, the right to vote.
But voter fraud involves that right, too. "When voters are disenfranchised by the counting of improperly cast ballots or outright fraud, their civil rights are violated just as surely as if they were prevented from voting," write Fund and von Spakovsky. "The integrity of the ballot box is just as important to the credibility of elections as access to it."
Alan Clemmons testified under oath at the voter ID law trial that they never actually found any cases of voter fraud of the type the law is designed to prevent.
So, yea...about that conscious intellect thing.
Now I know which party you're with, there's no need to bother entertaining any thoughts of seeing any conscious intellect here.
Love it! Great cartoon and very appropriate!
He voted for all the spending bills with no revenue to compensate and all the tax cuts with no spending cuts to compensate. Fiscal conservative my a ss
The political image of Paul Ryan as a fiscal hawk a deficit hawk and whatever other lie the Republican party wants to spread about him, I'm certain the Obama people are going to express very well this fall. After all it it walks like a duck and talks like a duck and acts like a duck. You can bet it's Paul Ryan and the GOP trying to duck from what they want to do to America.
This is a good time to remind you that the Ryan fortune was built on government contracts and that he personally benefited from Social Security.
So, yea, self-reliance. Not so much.
Exactly. Self reliance is a terrible thing, we should never inflict it on ANYONE.
First, you have the bayonet on the wrong side of the musket. it goes underneath so as not to interfere with the sights. Second, that was the AR-15/M-16 of its day, a military weapon. That it could also be used for medium-game hunting was incidental to its design, it was intended from the start to kill other people. If you look at the papers published at the time of the writing of the Bill of Rights, people were afraid of a strong central government that would gradually erode their rights, and wanted the ability to mount a citizen army that could overthrow the government should that government prove corrupt or tyrannical. That's why people are allowed to have machine guns, anti-tank weapons and M-16s, so that there is a semi-realistic chance to knock down the government in times of need.
Trip to London to act as PR for Boeing?
You and Clarkie need a radio show.
vagina is ground zero for theocracy, vagina is where theocrats shove up vaginal ultrasound wands to force women to look at one inch embryonic things before they abort.... INVISIBLE to abdominal ultrasound scans... and the Michigan law also forces women to give a funeral to the unborn 2 inch goo in a 3 inch casket EXCEPT IF THEY DONATE IT TO STEM CELL RESEARCH FOR RETHUGLICAN PROFITEERS...WHAT is most insane is that the bible liars who pass these laws DO NOT READ THE PRO-violent abortion bible which also deliberately mis-translated out the Hebrew word for vagina & replaced it with "groves" and in grove of trees.. 2 Kings 8:12 ... " rip open the bellies of pregnant women, let not anyone live but keep the virgins for yourselves, dash the little ones against the stones." or a real keeper EZEKIEL 23:20 "SHE HAD SEX WITH A DONKEY THAT EJACULATED MORE SEMEN THAN A HORSE." King James Bible, illegal to mail since 1899 when McKinley pardoned CC Moore for the crime of mailing obscene bible verses.
Yep, vagina is for lovers. Or was that Virginia? Whatever..
That is a pretty ridiculous statement Mat.
It's priced for the upper middle class. You know, people who can actually appreciate the "art".
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