The Good Fight

Right - or MAYBE they tried to conform to close-minded people like you and DID have a relationship with a man, got pregnant, had the child (or children), couldn't take it and finally left in order to be honest with themselves and the world. My ex's ex-wife was one that fit this explanation. She and her partner, along with my ex and I, did a fine job raising their son and daughter, who by the way, both grew up to be straight, the daughter is even married with 2 kids of her own!

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Oh yeah, one other comment there Trowfan - I thought those Christian beliefs included loving all people as well as believing that all of us are God's children (and therefore INTENDED to have the sexual orientation that we all have). I'd also like you to tell me where in the bible it says that a homosexual lifestyle is perverted.

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In a few trivial passages the Bible, for what it's worth, does proscribe sex between gay males ("don't lie with another man as with a woman"--which seems physically unpleasant, anyway). But I don't think Scripture mentions lesbian relations, so that seems to be no problem. I takes the Gospel/wherever 'tis poss'ble/ but with a grain of salt...

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Im sorry, but anytime there is a study with a 0% finding, I question it. I have no problem with gay adoption, but 0%? that doesnt sound likely

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Hey Trowfan, your wasting your time trying to make sence with these "People" (gag)

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Hey Trowfan, could you throw some writing pointers down Southern Man's way? If you can learn, so can he.

Pontus99/Chris: the 0% finding is suspicious but indicative of their sample size being relatively small. However one can still glean that lesbian couples are far less likely to sexually abuse their kids than the "right kind" of parents. One simple reason: they don't have paramours. No men allowed: no boyfriends either. The person most likely to be dangerous in a child's life is the boyfriend/next husband of momma. Yet another of the chilling statistics learned when my wife worked with the youthful victims and perpetrators of sexual abuse.

Chris's link illustrates this point well, as lesbians suffer domestic violence at a rate dramatically lower than the average woman, and even gay men are victimized by DV at a lower rate as well. 25% of women are victims of DV in general.

But I assure you all that homosexuals will ruin the sanctity of the institution of marriage. I'm just certain of it.

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Factory connection, you had me until the last 2 lines. Simply put, if over 50% of American marriages end in divorce, then half of America sees no sanctity in marriage anyway.

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Hey Trowfan, Jesus would slap the shit out if you if he heard you talking like that about gays. Seems every time some "Christian" gay bashes, they always end up being exposed for ....being gay!

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Yankee, your reaction was appropriate... I'll commence use of tags for future clarity.

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Yo, Trow, amigo, where'd you go to skrewl? I'm sure we met in some academic setting in this country or some other. Sure we didn't study Christian ethics together somewhere? Was it perhaps in Italy (yourself.IT)?

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Wow, Trowfan... Why are you soooo angry? Take a breath, and focus that negative energy towards something productive, like rapists, or child molesters, or drug pushers, or drunk drivers, or good old-fashioned murderers. Another person's sexual orientation does not affect your life, or life experience, in ANY way. Why give it even a moment's attention? You seem to have an awful lot of rage for something that doesn't impact you. Why allow what other people do in the privacy of their bedroom upset you? I assure you, we'd all be in for a rude awakening if everyone had to wear a button with their favorite sexual position. So... Let the anger go, and if you must have hate in your life, please prioritize... When the world is rid of murderers, rapists, human traffickers, and child abusers, you can re-focus your attention elsewhere... Until then, harness that rage toward something important.

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this is absurd. the article is about homes in which children are permitted to grow up free of violence and abuse. how is this not GREAT news?
we know nothing else about the families in question so lets refrain from making assumptions or casting aspersions. frankly no one outside yourself gives half of one rats ass about your opinion on gay or lesibian unions so rant if you must but your anger won't change the facts.
love is far more likely to exist in a home where no abuse is reported. there are some of us who can appreciate this and applaud parents whose children never feel threatened in their own homes. every child deserves such parents.

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Ha ha! Stupid bigoted South Carolinians. Typical redneck fundamentalist ravings from the Palmetto Skrate

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Actually that verse at the top is taken out of context. The only viable verse in the Holy Bible that speaks against homosexuality is actually speaking in its defense, it is just misintreperted. In Romans, Paul says that it is "un-natural" for a straight man to lie with another straight man. What he is saying is that it is "un-natural" or morally wrong for you to go against how God formed you from the womb. So... as scientific data has shown, a man or a woman can be born as a homosexual, it would be wrong for that homosexual to pretend to be straight and lie with a woman, just as it would be wrong and sinful (shameful, moral repugnant) for a straight man to pretend (come out) to be gay and lie with another man. Thus the idea of "coming out" is offensive to homosexuals or should be. There is no such thing as coming out. You are born right handed or left handed, your sexual orientation is exactly the same way, it is just a by-product of God's perfect creation and formation of humanity from birth. I am a straight man, who fought with the idea that politically as a Christian I was required to either be a democrat and say homosexuality is wrong but legal, or be a republican and say homosexuality is wrong and illegal. Well I am in neither camp. I believe that true birth homosexuality (just like true birth heterosexuality) is neither wrong nor sinful, and therefore should not only be legal but the whole issue should be dropped. How stupid would it be to make a law banning right handed people from playing baseball because they were not left handed?? It is the same argument, just different factions of the human life.

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please note this comment is not gay or lesbian bashing. I was raised by my lesbian mother until the age of 12.

. I was thoroughly abused by my lesbian mother , and several of her lesbian friends over the course of several years. I would say one fifth of her lesbian mates were abusive towards me, and there are several police reports to prove this.
you cannot classify the whole group of lesbian parents to have there hands clean of abuse like this, its wrong to say it.
I highly doubt that all lesbians are abusive either. but I can say from experience that they are not all innocent
Pauline Wilson, who lives at 434 Maple street Sudbury Ontario Canada is an angry, and violent lesbian. she likes to abuse little boys while she screams about men. It was mostly she who Physically, violently, sexually, and emotionally abused me severely for several years, Until I had to emancipate myself at the age of 12. she used to beat me alot, and at one point she even threatened to cut off my penis, she picked me up and threw me against the wall,now I have back problems. she would scream and scream for hours. Her and my mother, used to claim that all men are the same, they only want on thing, etc. My mother used to ignore my cries for help, letting Pauline do whatever she wanted to me.and when i was much younger, before Pauline, My mother duct taped me to the bed and I couldnt move until the police arrived.
My mothers name is Sophie Mathild Baker and she also resides in sudbury ontario

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