Apparently South Carolina's own Rep. Joe Wilson thought the President's address to Congress last night was a town hall meeting and tried to disrupt it. Things have been getting out of hand lately with rightwingers acting like Brown Shirts at public forums. What we saw last night was racism, pure and simple. Republicans did not treat Bill Clinton with such disrespect even when they impeached him.
It's time to draw the line on this behavior and one way to do it is to call for Wilson's censure by his House colleagues. Go to http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/5649/t/4997/content.jsp?content_KEY=2825&tag=pof_e1 and say it's time to censure Joe.
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This guy is a gut-less bastard (runs from the chamber) and the people of South Carolina are morons for electing him. I wouldn't take a shit in your scum-bag state.
I believe Representative Wilson's comment was appropriate. Mr. Obama was out of line in not recognizing the citizenry's disapproval of components in the health care bill. The GOP's bill and recommendations to repair various aspects of our current health insurance should be respected, as well as those of the middle class. After all, the middle class will be 'footing the bill' for any modifications. Obama is pushing too hard and is arrogant in thinking he and/or his supporters have the 'right' answer. I commend Rep. Wilson for having called out his and his constituents view. That is America and to call us 'brown shirts' should also be rejected as an attempt to discredit the heart of America. Darn blind, liberals!!
Thank you Joe for saying what many of us wish to say. Again another WHOA IS ME I'M BLACK racist comment. Let's keeping playing the black card as always. The truth is, the plan will only help the current welfare, the future welfare and the illegal. The rest of us "PROUD TO BE WHITE" folks have to work for a living and pay for out own insurance. There will be only changes for the lazy bums collecting a free government check - they will get MORE! and the working class, NON-WELFARE, will keep paying.
There is always the "racist" comments about anyone who speaks the truth and against the muslim, non-citizen, bought his way president. Or should I say El Presidente
YEAH! JOE!! DON'T APPOLOGIZE ANYMORE - YOU ARE HIRED TO SPEAK FOR THE PEOPLE AND YOU FINALLY DID. WISH OTHERS WOULD REMEMBER WHO PAYS THEM AND WHO THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT!!
"For the people, of the people...."
Stand up for what you believe Joe! We all say things out of anger, you should be forgiven by Obama and the rest of your ilk. We all say things we regret later...even if the majority of Americans agree with you..and don't forget that. You have more support than you would believe if you read and listen to main stream media.
Thank you!
I applaude Sen Wilson for his obvious bravery to not go along with that Socialist like the rest of the gutless swine in that auditorium last night! Bravo! Its called freedom of speech! I implore more people to stand up to that Barack "Hitler" Obama! He is going to ruin our country and his thug style politics needs to go back to Chicago where it is obviously respected if the radical wants respect! Again, Bravo, Sen. Wilson... goood man! Next time, please don't apologize to the Kenyan!
WHOEVER RRT IS IN MAKING YOUR VERY CLOSED-MINDED STATEMENT ABOUT RACISM AND NON WHITE BEING ON WELFARE THER ARE MORE WHITE PEOPLE ON WELFARE THAN ANY OTHER ETNICITY IN AMERICA. IN REFERENCE TO JOE WILSON COMMENT IT WAS VERY DISRESPECTFUL AND AGITATIOUS AND THE DECENT THING WOULD BE FOR HIM TO RESIGN IMMEDIATELY FOR HIS ACTIONS WERE ANTI-AMERICAN AND VERY UNINTELLIGENT
I think it is good that someone stood up and said something. I believe it is Obama that is playing games. South Carolina should be glad that someone is looking out for all it's citizen,Dems and Reps alike.
this is precisely why sc is considered by others in the union as backwards, out of touch with reality, and a bunch of poor, racist, whites that are still bitter about losing the civil war. sc was the first to rebel against the us government and leave the union. unfortunately, there are still racists in every area of government and there are people that feel the same way as most of the bigots. they make all white people look bad and our republican party does not need that image or want that negative, racist overtone. it's almost like they are afraid of blacks "learning to read" just like in the days of slavery. grow up! it really is a shame that these people still exist. the south carolina citizens need to be ashamed and need not worry about why their state is always and consistently last in education. incredible display of ignorance.
Rep. Joe Wilson needs to forced to Resign!!!! regardless your personal feelings you have towards the Prtesident and the position you hold in office. You should show respect and Integrity and professinalism. It only confirmed the republicains are racist and have started this hate and lies we are seeing in the public. The republicains live off of fears of the Americans and use it to there advantage by spreading fear and lies, Look how well Bush and Chaney used it!!!!
This is a well put together evil machine. The Republicans care nothing for the lower and middle class americans, only for the rich and will stop at nothing, no matter how unethical it is to push there hatred for the average citizens.
We need health care reform badly. I have insurance however I see to many americans who paid taxes and lost there hob or was laid off and hav no medical insurance. This is a travesty, and the republicans do not give a crap. What was our country founded on????? the Republicans should be ashamed of there evil display they displayed last night. You see one congressman Texting on his phone others throwing up papers and another yelling you are a lier to the President. This is an embaressment to our country, and I say the display of those congressmen is proof each and every one of them do not give a flip about the American People and need to be removed from offfice. I am going to do my best to rasie enough hell to try to get that DEVIL Rep. Joe Wilson out of office!!!!!
Why was none of the actions displayed last night displayed when Bush was in office and he was spending billions of our money in a fraud War, and when Bush was constantly placing us in a hugh deficet. the republicans beleive it is ok for them to screw the americains and no make a fuss about it. Sure screw us, however the Republicans will lie and cheat and spread fear when the President is trying to do something for the American People. Something as trival as the president wanting to address children about education which is a positive the republicans placed lies and fear in americans on that, how typical of them!!!!!
Wow, the ignorance of the comments above mine is staggering.
You idiots are racists.
Oh, I'm sure you don't have a problem with Black folks...as long as you DON'T have to work for them, have them be your pastor, have them teach you children or have them as the leader of your government. You like them just fine, as long as they are worse off and less educated then you are (hard to imagine the latter in your cases).
You're the kind of people, that if Jesus was a Black man you'd all still be Jewish.
Chew on that, you useless morons while you clean your sheets and hoods.
to Kira: Actually, the Dems DID heckle and boo Pres. Bush - there is video of it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBxmEGG71PM. So you may want to check out what you say, before you post.
I commend Rep. Wilson for have the guts to "call out" the President, just as the President said he is going to "call out" people he thinks are not telling the truth. It works both ways. Just because he is the President, doesn't mean he gets to lie and get away with it.
Stop getting on the band wagon to delittle Rep. Jow Wilson! MANY of us are tired of paying our taxes to have them go to support illegals! Cut all illegals off of welfare money, food stamps, and the free ride of the school systems. If you want to entry ... do it the legal way! This man had the courage to stand up for what many of us are laready saying! So if you don't mind supporting the illlegals that is yours to make, but I most certainly do mind! Learn about this bill before you hate on Joe Wilson! It will indeed provide for the illegals also! Yes we need reform, but cutting off the free ride to those who break immigration laws is the reform we need!
Big O, until I scrolled down and saw your comment, I was beginning to think we had stepped into a time machine and had been transported back to the 50's or before. I think this incident make it obvious that racism is alive and well in America, and not just in the South.
So much of the right wing vehemence against the President has been based on the color of his skin, not his policies. Those of us who voted for Barrack Obama anticipated it, and that it has taken this long for racism to become an issue in this administration surprises me.
Joe Wilson felt he had the right to attack the President because Wilson is white and Obama is Black, and Wilson resents the fact that a black man is his superior. Now, through his words, Wilson has shown that Obama is his superior in ways far outside the political arena.
Stop getting on the band wagon to belittle Rep. Jow Wilson! MANY of us are tired of paying our taxes to have them go to support illegals! Cut all illegals off of welfare money, food stamps, and the free ride of the school systems. If you want to entry ... do it the legal way! This man had the courage to stand up for what many of us are laready saying! So if you don't mind supporting the illlegals that is yours to make, but I most certainly do mind! Learn about this bill before you hate on Joe Wilson! It will indeed provide for the illegals also! Yes we need reform, but cutting off the free ride to those who break immigration laws is the reform we need!
Joe Wilson for President! You should have not apologized for saying what was the truth. I am tired of the Obama lies - thank you for standing up!
Just donated to Rob Miller's campaign. Not my district, not my state even but it IS my country and we don't need boorish, disrespectful people like Joe Wilson as a representative.
First of all, we still have (for the time being) "freedom of speech". And don't forget, the President works for us, we don't work for him. I have never figured out why anyone should be intimidated by the President and he sure seems to intimidate. He says "we WILL get this done". Who is "we" and what makes him so sure of getting what he wants? This country is suppose to be "for the people and by the people".
I agree that the office of Presidency warrants respect, but not necessarily the man in office. When he deserves respect, then he should get it.....it doesn't come automatically just because he holds the office!! Seems to me he is determined that things are going to be HIS way. This country has been going down hill since he took office and I hope it will survive what is in store for us after this man gets HIS way (and with all the ignorant/blind people in Washington, he will). But, I think the citizens of this country better enjoy the last days of a "free" country because American will never be the same again after this President gets through (and I don't mean that in a positive way).
What about what the people want? Does he TRULY care? I think not. Why doesn't he just conduct a special survey of what every voter (except those on welfare or medicaid) wants. He might find out that the majority don't want what he wants. What about the Congress/Senate? Are they going to be forced to be under a medical plan someone dictates to them? I highly doubt it.
I would like to know exactly what was meant by the remarks of some other Congressman that Wilson will pay for his remarks. Sounds like threats to me. I pray not.
Slowly, but surely, we are headed down a road that is visible to those who don't have blinders on....socialism and dictatorship. There is a writing that says "What is the high place whereunto ye go? And the name thereof is called Bamah unto this day." Everyone is looking to Obama to take care of and solve our problems. Got news.....you're looking to the wrong man!! Another writing says "Do not associate with those who always insist upon change, because disaster will come to them suddenly. Who knows what misery both may bring?" Hmmmm, think about that.
I don't know why people always want to throw racism into everything!!! I don't know who you are, but I think probably you are racist yourself to always see that anytime anyone makes remark against someone of a different color it is racism. Grow up!!!!!! Don't forget......Obama is half WHITE. Yep, I'm white, but I'm not racist and I don't have a small mind. Anyway, Clinton did some bad things, but what is taking place now is worse...the government taking over everything! Where are your rights going? Who is going to own your home; your car; tell you when to go to the doctor and determine your medical needs; tell you who you can fire from YOUR company or what you have to pay for employee's insurance? Certainly not going to be you!
Anyway, I say "Go Wilson"!!!!!!!!! I wish more would have the nerve to say what they know to be truthful instead of being little "cowards" and little mice just sitting there wanting approval from the "big cheese". I'll say it again......if the man in office deserves respect, then give it....it he doesn't why be a hypocite?? Wilson has every right as a representative of the people to speak up at any time when the people are being lied to.
I'm just glad he did it when all could hear it!!!
Why is everyone so upset over Rep. Wilson's call-out? Just because it was untrue, doesn't mean it was incorrect to bring a little bit of the internet into our government. What place does decorum and professionalism have in our government? Why should South Carolina be represented by people that don't shout out random accusations to the president on national television?
In fact, I see this event, with its obvious, overwhelming support seen in the comments, as a bellwether for Senators Graham and DeMint as well as Representatives like Henry Brown. To them: why weren't you yelling out whatever crossed your mind like a sports fan? How were you able to keep yourself from protecting our interests with two-word challenges to the President's message, especially considering that the format was one that wouldn't allow you to elaborate or engage the President? Obviously you missed a golden opportunity to represent the GOP's point of view.
In fact, everyone in this state should take it upon themselves to start heckling the managers of other divisions at their company. The more public and less professionally appropriate... the more AMERICAN!
How embarrassing for South Carolina. We deserve intelligent representation without being so ignorant and plain ole stupid looking. We need to raise the bar and get someone that will be able to work with the rest of Congress. He's now alienated from both Republicans and Democrats.
Unbelievable - I wondered where all the far right folks lived. Now I know. I'm embarassed for the people of S.Carolina that they are represented by someone as crass and ill-mannered as Joe Wilson. There are appropriate ways to express your disagreement - name calling during a public speech by the Pres of the US is not the forum for that.
Joe "blow job" Wilson is a total IDIOT!!! He does not deserve to represent his tiny district in South Carolina.
There is a time and a place to say or do anythings but not in the public eyes. Never have I witness any disrespectful behavior toward a President and the Rep. party should hold him accountable for his action. Now for those thats cheers for Joe Wilson behavior its not a problem for President Obama. There are others but they are smart and silence. Joe Wilson will regret his behavior, besides he have started something that he has no ideal things will turn toward the worst for him. See stupidities will flop together and support one another even when you know he was wrong.
Everyone who said he's right for shouting out in a joint session of the US Congress like that is flat out wrong.
Check the rules: "The precedents of the House allow a wide latitude in criticism of the President, other executive officials, and the government itself. However, it is not permissible to use language that is personally offensive to the President, such as referring to him as a “hypocrite” or a “liar.” Similarly, it is not in order to refer to the President as “intellectually dishonest” or an action taken by the President as “cowardly.” References to the Vice President, in spite of his role as President of the Senate, are measured against the standard used for the President rather than prior standards used to govern the Senate."
That was a foolish thing he did, regardless of if you agree with him or not. He broke and disrespected a century old rule of decorum in the US House. General voicing of opinions for example murmurs, boo'ing, cheers, etc are not forbidden.
http://rules-republicans.house.gov/Educati… Last paragraph titled "References to the Senate or Executive Branch"
I am shocked at the disrespect expressed at last night speech. I apologize to you President Obama for the ignores of some americans. Joe should be ashamed of himself for disrespecting OUR president, and our presidency.
It a shame that some people can't get past racism. It shouldn't matter if he is white, black, red, or purple; he is our PRESIDENT. And if we, americans, can't respect OUR president,or the presidency than how do you expect the world and its people to respect our PRESIDENT or US.
Let me say this; when my children were growing up this is what I told them about racism. There are good white people and there are bad white people just like there is good black people and there are bad black people. The color of you skin doesn't determine whether you are good or bad. I am a white person raised in an all white community, but when I served in the army I learned that there are many good, intelligient black people.
My father, who is 92years old, was very racist. Finally,my father put his racism aside and voted for Obama. I did ask him who is was voting for, but when he told me I was shocked. My father said,"He is a very intelligent, passionate man."
I think it was nothing but ignorance to call OUR president a liar. I think Joe was just sitting there waiting for an opportunity to be disrespectful to President Obama. There is no room in our government for ignorance, and disrespect. Go home Joe and learn some manners. What happened to your southern hospitality?
Go home, Joe!!!!
Do you really think that at the end of his speech, that President Obama would even be the least bit concerned about what anyone thought of his speech (unless of course it was to give him accolades for it)? No! Do you think President Obama would have asked if anyone had any objections to his statements/comments? No!
So I guess Joe Wilson took his opportunity when it became available. If any of you who have posted any comment here can TRUTHFULLY say that you have NEVER said anything out of anger or frustration....then my hats off to you for being completely in control of your tongue!!
Most of us can only control our emotions and tongues to a certain point and I guess Joe Wilson reached his, even though it might not be "politically correct" in some peoples' eye.
I'm still glad that he spoke the "truth" for people to hear!!!! For many are deceived!!!!
I'm glad to see that the president's call to end partisan rancor and to open channels of rational discussion didn't get overshadowed by something that is a relatively minor infraction inflated by the media into something preposterous. (Is the sarcasm evident?)
This isn't a free speech issue. It's an issue of manners. Wilson has the right to his opinion, he doesn't have the right to shout it out whenever and whereever he wants. If I went to his speech and started yelling, I bet security would have me removed.
Second of all, the comparisons of Obama to Hitler are absolutely in poor taste. He's not killing millions of people, and he's not trying to enforce socialism. If you think he is, diversify your sources of information because Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck are commentators, not journalists. They have no obligation to the facts. Try reading a history book too. The current healthcare debate has no valid comparison to nazis or socialism. The proposed public option is no more "socialist" than the institutions of social security, medicare or medicaid, all of which are pretty popular.
In closing, healthcare reform isn't some expansion of the welfare state. There are more people in the middle class hurting from healthcare and in need of help than there are people on the govt dole who would get anything for free from this plan so cool it with that shit. I work 2 jobs and I still can't afford to go to a doctor or the dentist. I was supposed to have surgery two years ago, and couldn't because I was disqualified on a technicality. Climb out of your metaphorical bomb-shelters of ignorance, stop taking everything you hear on talk radio at face value and start understanding that this is a serious problem for more than just whatever minority group you want to hate this week...
From California,
Joe Wilson was obviously elected by a pack of ignorant, impolite, rednecks. Wilson does not even know what the health bill said. Obviously, neither do 90% of the bozos who made the above comments.
I am ok with you guys leaving the union now. I know you lost back in 1865, but its ok to leave now, please. Y'all are obviously stuck back there in some other time.
Oh please you morons that are suggesting that Wilson's comment shows his racism and that racism is alive and well havent got a clue what racism is. What would you be blaming it on if Obama was white. Get a grip and stop ponying up to the liberal trough of lies.
Also you others who apparently don't pay attention to history, his comment was no more rude than was all the boos coming from the democrapit side of the room during Bush's speech in 2005. Pot say hello to kettle.
The one who lied should appologize for the American people: The president did not tell the truth in such a nationalized speech. The truth is that some powerful interest groups provid undocumented immigrants with a path into the so called "healthcare reform plan" -- don't you think that the general public will eventually realize this?
You all do realize that your comments (most of you) make Will's point, don't you? Of course you don't - never mind.
Tp "proh": I agree with you one hundred percent. Thanks for articulating the issues and the distortions that are being so freely bandied about, so well.
I teach in California, but was offered a job with $10,000 increase in salary in SC, by a friend who is a principal at a high school there. I am white, married to a black man, with a mixed race child. I asked him if there are any black people in his school, "no, they go to a different school". I asked him if there are any black people in his neighborhood, "no, they live in another part of town." Well, WHERE would we live, and how would they treat my family in SC? " I guess you should probably just stay in California. It would not work out." What does that say about SC?
I think Joe Wilson should run for President. He's the only man in America who has the courage to say the emporer wears no clothes.
Why should Joe apologize for telling the truth? Obama Hussein Barack should be the one apologizing for lying to the American people over and over and over and over again!
For those of us who oppose the Amnesty Bill that the president will most likely introduce for paying tribute to his donors and backers, let's listen to Jo Will's defining remark, and wake up and say "no" to this flawed healthcare reform plan.
Wilson did alright by saying the truth. Obama is a lying bastard peice of Communist SCUM. This is not about Race this is about truth Obama Has Lied from the on start. MY poor nephew voted for him and told me Obama was going to end the wars. He shipped ouit last week poor bastard will die because Obama lied.
Joe Wilson was a disgrace. He should not only be censured, but removed. It proves just how stupid he is and shows he has no moral fiber in his body. Its this kind of juvenile and scary display that makes American look like a third world nation. Shame on South Carolina for voting for this jerk. REMOVE HIM FROM OFFICE
Joe Wilson has demonstrated to America and the world what a total ignorant man he is and a disgrace to Congress and South Carolina. He should not only be censured but also removed. South Carolina, Do the right thing and get rid of this nut. Its shameful and totally shows no moral fiber. And only tells America that South Carolina is festering in nut job politicians. Try the Governor for one.
mr.obama should step down he is already washed up and only in 9 months has he destroyed freedom,the rights of the people, the trust. His croonies have used the RACE CARD on everything to villianize those who oppose his oppressive Communist Ideas. It will take a civil war to remove him if he ties the knot with this obama care bill as it will communtize us and War will be the only answer to lift obama and his communist friends from within OUR NATION . This is not his homeland, Kenya is home to this man who pretends to be our president.
This Rep is a discrace to all American!!! Democrats and Republicans alike! He is simply one of many WHITE Americans who are ignorant, racist and haven't got a reality check and in their thick empty skulls that OBAMA is the American president! YES, he is the first black president of America.
Joe Wilson should resign! We should request his resignation to teach a lesson to all RACIST/PECKER-WOOD/WHITE TRASH/KKK supporters that this isn't the 18Century when there was slavery, or in the 1960's when blacks could not vote, share any facilities/services with whites!!! This is the 21st Century baby...Your time is over...this is OUR TIME!
Joe Wilson...you are such an asshole!
Still think that Joe Wilson did a Courageous job, and should not feel sorry for saying what many Americans would have said, given a chance. This is really a defining moment, I used to think that Palin was not likable, and Obama was so different, but given what Mr. Obama has been doing so far, I am not sure now since he seems a bit too left-win for me.
As soon as one of these "Average" Joe Wilson backers looses their job and their subsequent health insurance, I wonder how long it will take to drop their musket. Illegal aliens represent 4% of this country. Is that what this is all about? Or is it that they'll kill Grandma? Or better yet they'll take all the white woman.
Why are you chatting on the internet anyway, shouldn't you be watching Fox news and buying guns now?
You "racemongerers" are completely amazing. It can't be that we just disagree with the president, no of course not, its because we are racists. What would your pathetic excuses be if he was 100% white instead of 1/2. Morons.
I don't care what color you are if you are a liar you should be called out and no one should have to say they are sorry for what they think. This Politically correct bs has gone on long enough. You people who comment about south carolina being back woods are the idiots. A good bit of the people that live in South Carolina are yankee transplants or from the mid west so get over yourself and get a clue. Screw the I'm sorry for hurting your feelings say it like it is and get over it. Respect is earned not given because of a title.
If President Obama is correct and there is nothing in the bill about health care for illegal aliens then why would the democrats vote NO to an amendment requiring proof of citizenship before health care is provided ??
If it was spelled out then nobody would have needed to
consider proposing an amendment. Please Please consider facts. That clears up most of the problems.
If congress was that worried about YOUR health they would have passed some form of reform many years ago. It is all about positioning for one ideology
or the other. If you trust the gov. to do a wonderful job with everything because you dont want to make any tough adult decisions other than what channel to watch then you should be for the democrats plan. They have done such a great job guarding the southern border to prevent the illegals from entering in the first place. They have done a fantastic job of handling the VA, post office, medicare , medicade, fannie mae and fredie mac. We should let em do it all and move back in to a cave. If you dont want another entitlement program for people that take more than they give then you should be for the
bill 3400 the republicans have proposed. The bill 3200 is about control of 20% of the economy and waving good bye to freedom and democracy.
A great big thank you to Joe Wilson for saying out loud what millions of us were saying to our tv sets as Obama was spewing lie after lie about the health care bill and what the contents really mean. This health care bill is more about government taking control of our lives than health care. When you look closely at it, you can see the truth, Obamas comments are totally offensive because if he truly had America's best interest at heart, he would not allow Pelosi, Biden and the rest to force this on the American public. Instead of going all over the country to try to convince people that it is a good plan, he should be trying to change the obviously disagreeable parts. There are a lot of good ideas that he will not look at because he truly doesn't care what anyone thinks, even though he tries to look sincere, it's obvious that he isn't.
